Bernard Brauer, Those are pretty old news. From my post of 15.11.2007: //www.freelists.org/archives/geocentrism/11-2007/msg00709.html -------------------------- Philip Madsen: "This is no win for HC over GC but,..." Regner Trampedach: "By no means - and I would like to emphasize that." -------------------------- - Regner - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Quoting Bernie Brauer <bbrauer777@xxxxxxxxx>: > > "......the celestial poles argument does not disprove the heliocentric > model." N.T.J. > > 1 ......and the HC ecliptic pole and celestial pole arguments do not > disprove > the Geocentric model. > > 2 "......the celestial poles argument does not disprove or prove the > heliocentric > model." > > Bernie > > > Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Dear All, > > I respected Regner's request not to immediately respond to his last posting, > but instead have been giving this whole matter very careful consideration. > > There is now no doubt in my mind that the 24-hour images about the ecliptic > polar axis are always going to be snapshots of the diurnal rotation in the > heliocentric model and I concede, therefore, that the celestial poles > argument does not disprove the heliocentric model. > > Steven and my web site will be amended in the near future, God willing, to > reflect this retraction. > > I would just like to thank you all for some excellent debating and for the > many illustrations that several of you have provided. I hope that none of you > feel that your efforts were either wasted or unappreciated. > > This topic will not be closed yet, since Allen has not had a chance to fully > digest Regner's post. If he concedes, as I have, then we will close it off, > otherwise he will now have one more to convince! > > I hope that our little forum family is strengthened by this discussion and > that each one of us has learnt something from it, I know that I have. If, > however, anyone feels disappointed, then I apologise to you for building your > hopes up. > > Best wishes, > > Neville > www.GeocentricUniverse.com > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how.