Dear Neville, I'm a bit rusty on some of this so can I ask you if you made a timelapse photo taken from the same place, 'The Hill O' Many Stanes' over 365 days, what kind of trace would the stars be expected to make in the heliocentric model? Regards Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: Neville Jones To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 4:27 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Celestial Poles All, A refined and simplified version of the celestial poles argument is now up on www.geocentricperspective.com under the "Geocentrism Evidence" section of the Science category. Neville. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get Free Smileys for Your IM & Email - Learn more at www.inbox.com/smileys Works with AIM®, MSN® Messenger, Yahoo!® Messenger, ICQ®, Google TalkTM and most webmails