[dokuwiki] Re: Minor edits question
- From: Redeeman <redeeman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: dokuwiki@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 15:58:42 +0200
i dont understand why you consider a 1-2 line change a minor edit..
on a 1 or 2 lines changed basis one can RADICALLY change a document,
however you can also change 30 lines if its only a few words who gets
spell corrected on a line, or perhaps only 1 word on each of the lines..
in which case the feed has no need to be updated..
in short: autodetecting minor edits just cant work for what minor edits
are meant to do.
On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 08:48 -0500, Joe Lapp wrote:
> Hey thanks, Esther, I'm starting to sense some convergence.
>
> Some remaining issues:
>
> (1) Since a small edit might be significant on some wiki (not likely
> splitbrain), maybe a minor edit is a 1 or 2 line edit for which no summary
> was given.
>
> (2) As long as all edits make it into the change log (and hence revision
> lists), it's not clear to me that we need to restrict minor edits to logged
> in users.
>
> (3) If we do restrict minor edits to logged in users, how does 'requiresums'
> affect non-logged-in users? I suspect that 'requiresums' would render the
> wiki unusable by non-logged-in users.
>
> (4) If we aren't requiring summaries for minor edits, what is the behavior of
> 'requiresums' for logged in users? I personally need a warning if I forget
> to enter a summary, even if the warning just asks me whether I'd like to
> consequently record the edit as minor.
>
> (5) In addition to excluding minor edits from the feed, do we exclude them
> from page subscriptions? Part of me says, Yes, if they're minor, subscribers
> don't care. Part of me says, No, since I may be taking ownership of the
> quality of the page and want to be able to immediately eliminate spam.
>
> Thanks for the helpful email. I think you made our first step towards
> agreement, but I still need clarification on the above issues.
>
> ~joe
>
> ----- Start Original Message -----
> From: Esther Brunner <esther@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: dokuwiki@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [dokuwiki] Re: Minor edits question
>
> > This discussion on minor edits seems to be endless.
> >
> > Minor edits are useful for spelling corrections and the like, where's
> > no need for the feed readers and the email subscribers to know.
> > However there is a danger with minor edits: it may be abused for
> > silently entering spam. So I think the minor edit option should be
> > available for logged in users only.
> >
> > Then, there's the question of a checkbox vs. determination through a
> > script. A checkbox would offer more control but is also more effort
> > for the wiki authors. I like the computed solution better and it has
> > the advantage of keeping the interface as simple as it is now.
> >
> > Finally, there's the question whether summaries should be required. I
> > pointed out already that the default should behave as it behaves now.
> > If you add an option for 'requiresums', just go ahead. I think it's
> > certainly useful in some cases but not in all.
> >
> > So, all that will change is that when a logged in user makes a change
> > of less than two lines, it will be marked as a minor edit and will
> > not be included in the feed nor will subscribers get a mail. In the
> > recent changes history minor edits are visible but greyed out. - Can
> > all of us live with that?
> >
> > -- esther
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