Hey thanks, Esther, I'm starting to sense some convergence. Some remaining issues: (1) Since a small edit might be significant on some wiki (not likely splitbrain), maybe a minor edit is a 1 or 2 line edit for which no summary was given. (2) As long as all edits make it into the change log (and hence revision lists), it's not clear to me that we need to restrict minor edits to logged in users. (3) If we do restrict minor edits to logged in users, how does 'requiresums' affect non-logged-in users? I suspect that 'requiresums' would render the wiki unusable by non-logged-in users. (4) If we aren't requiring summaries for minor edits, what is the behavior of 'requiresums' for logged in users? I personally need a warning if I forget to enter a summary, even if the warning just asks me whether I'd like to consequently record the edit as minor. (5) In addition to excluding minor edits from the feed, do we exclude them from page subscriptions? Part of me says, Yes, if they're minor, subscribers don't care. Part of me says, No, since I may be taking ownership of the quality of the page and want to be able to immediately eliminate spam. Thanks for the helpful email. I think you made our first step towards agreement, but I still need clarification on the above issues. ~joe ----- Start Original Message ----- From: Esther Brunner <esther@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: dokuwiki@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [dokuwiki] Re: Minor edits question > This discussion on minor edits seems to be endless. > > Minor edits are useful for spelling corrections and the like, where's > no need for the feed readers and the email subscribers to know. > However there is a danger with minor edits: it may be abused for > silently entering spam. So I think the minor edit option should be > available for logged in users only. > > Then, there's the question of a checkbox vs. determination through a > script. A checkbox would offer more control but is also more effort > for the wiki authors. I like the computed solution better and it has > the advantage of keeping the interface as simple as it is now. > > Finally, there's the question whether summaries should be required. I > pointed out already that the default should behave as it behaves now. > If you add an option for 'requiresums', just go ahead. I think it's > certainly useful in some cases but not in all. > > So, all that will change is that when a logged in user makes a change > of less than two lines, it will be marked as a minor edit and will > not be included in the feed nor will subscribers get a mail. In the > recent changes history minor edits are visible but greyed out. - Can > all of us live with that? > > -- esther > -- > DokuWiki mailing list - more info at > http://wiki.splitbrain.org/wiki:mailinglist > ----- End Original Message ----- -- DokuWiki mailing list - more info at http://wiki.splitbrain.org/wiki:mailinglist