[bksvol-discuss] Re: Clarifying the stripper and page number issue for Monday Meeting

  • From: "Kenneth A. Cross" <crossk@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 21:07:15 -0500

The statement below is super. Nice job, Sarah. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sarah Van Oosterwijck 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 4:38 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Clarifying the stripper and page number issue 
for Monday Meeting


  I have too much to say, but I will state the important part, I.E. what 
Merissa is asking for, first.

  I WANT page numbers retained in both daisy and BRF formats.  I am not fond of 
the statement "converted from ASCII and repaginated."
  I don't actually like headers, so they can be removed, but if they have to 
stay to insure no damage is done to the page numbers, by all means let them 
stay.

  Thank you for addressing this issue.  It has been an issue for longer than 
you have been in charge of the list.  It is, as someone else said, that  we 
really love bookshare and feel so much a part of it that we criticize its 
defects in the hope of making it better.  Are we all acting like annoying 
parents? LOL  You could always suggest that all members wishing to complain 
must pay a fee to help cover the cost of the improvements they suggest, due 
when the new features are implemented.
  I too would like to see a report on the discussion Monday.


  Stop reading here if you do not wish to read some calmly stated editorial 
comments.

  I do tend to remember page numbers I recently read past.  That means that I 
can come close to my lost position if page numbers exist.  This might be a 
feature or a defect of my brain, I haven't decided yet. :-)  I do like that 
information for knowing what percentage of the book I have finished.  Chapter 
numbers tend to provide the same service when still present.

  My braille note is supposed to keep my place, but does sometimes lose it.  I 
can not mark my place if I read with the book reader because it makes the file 
read only.  Kurzweil remembers if the file was saved and the file was 
converted, thereby losing daisy page numbers, but it also crashes at times and 
the recover feature doesn't always get your last position right.

  More conversion issues:
  A student frequently must convert a book from daisy in order to deal with it 
in an efficient and useful manner.  At that point page number tags would be 
lost.
  When the book is converted to RTF and then when it is converted again to 
daisy the page breaks and therefore the numbering can get messed up.  The only 
solution is page numbers in the body text of the book instead of only in the 
page number tags.
  I'm not opposed to tags, if they worked perfectly I would love it.  I wish 
chapters had them too, but we don't live in a perfect world and I'm almost used 
to that. :-)
  Kurzweil user page numbers can help if everything from the original book 
remains perfect, but it doesn't as stated above.  It's a multi-part problem I 
don't think bookshare can solve, so the easier solution is no stripper, or a 
stripper the user can choose to use or not to use.

  I also don't think it is reasonable to require page numbers, but I do not 
want numbers that scanned well to be removed.


  Sarah Van Oosterwijck
  http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity


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