[bksvol-discuss] Re: Clarifying the stripper and page number issue for Monday Meeting

  • From: "Sarah Van Oosterwijck" <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:38:53 -0600

I have too much to say, but I will state the important part, I.E. what Merissa 
is asking for, first.

I WANT page numbers retained in both daisy and BRF formats.  I am not fond of 
the statement "converted from ASCII and repaginated."
I don't actually like headers, so they can be removed, but if they have to stay 
to insure no damage is done to the page numbers, by all means let them stay.

Thank you for addressing this issue.  It has been an issue for longer than you 
have been in charge of the list.  It is, as someone else said, that  we really 
love bookshare and feel so much a part of it that we criticize its defects in 
the hope of making it better.  Are we all acting like annoying parents? LOL  
You could always suggest that all members wishing to complain must pay a fee to 
help cover the cost of the improvements they suggest, due when the new features 
are implemented.
I too would like to see a report on the discussion Monday.


Stop reading here if you do not wish to read some calmly stated editorial 
comments.

I do tend to remember page numbers I recently read past.  That means that I can 
come close to my lost position if page numbers exist.  This might be a feature 
or a defect of my brain, I haven't decided yet. :-)  I do like that information 
for knowing what percentage of the book I have finished.  Chapter numbers tend 
to provide the same service when still present.

My braille note is supposed to keep my place, but does sometimes lose it.  I 
can not mark my place if I read with the book reader because it makes the file 
read only.  Kurzweil remembers if the file was saved and the file was 
converted, thereby losing daisy page numbers, but it also crashes at times and 
the recover feature doesn't always get your last position right.

More conversion issues:
A student frequently must convert a book from daisy in order to deal with it in 
an efficient and useful manner.  At that point page number tags would be lost.
When the book is converted to RTF and then when it is converted again to daisy 
the page breaks and therefore the numbering can get messed up.  The only 
solution is page numbers in the body text of the book instead of only in the 
page number tags.
I'm not opposed to tags, if they worked perfectly I would love it.  I wish 
chapters had them too, but we don't live in a perfect world and I'm almost used 
to that. :-)
Kurzweil user page numbers can help if everything from the original book 
remains perfect, but it doesn't as stated above.  It's a multi-part problem I 
don't think bookshare can solve, so the easier solution is no stripper, or a 
stripper the user can choose to use or not to use.

I also don't think it is reasonable to require page numbers, but I do not want 
numbers that scanned well to be removed.


Sarah Van Oosterwijck
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