Bob,I think this is a great idea. Other things like if someone has removed all of the carriage returns/line breaks would also be a good thing as the whole 27 step process although not difficult is lengthy and I'd rather know it's been done than go through all of that if not necessary.
It sounds like there needs to be a revision of the manual as there seems to be a decent amount of confusion and I strive to meet all of the steps spelled out in the manual and then wonder if my work is accurate or not. So far, what I have been submitting has not been rejected.
Lori----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:39 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bolded words in text
Hi Monica. I sympathize with you.Please put something like fonts and headings have been fixed for navigation in the comments and most proofers will leave them alone: after all it makes their life easier.Bob And, thanks for your hard work."We know the future will outlast all of us, but I believe that all of us will live on in the future we make,"Senator Edward M. Kennedy----- Original Message ----- From: "Monica Willyard" <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:56 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bolded words in textMelissa and Lori, please, please don't do this as a principle on every book. I don't think you realize that this could do damage to someone's submission.When I submit books, I work very hard to fix the fonts so that my chapter headings are detected more easily both by sighted users and the Bookshare tools. Sighted readers use changes in the font face or font size to tellwhen the chapter or scene changes in a book. The current book I'm scanninguses the Arial font to indicate a chapter name and log entries when the scene changes. The rest of the text is Times New Roman.Furthermore, in many books I submit, the page numbers are at the bottom ofthe page. Using a larger font for the chapter names or numbers tells theBookshare stripper that this is where a new chapter or part begins. If you change the entire document to 12 point, you would unintentionally undo thework I spend a couple of hours doing to ensure good daisy navigation foreveryone. Braille and blind speech users wouldn't notice. Our members with learning disabilities would though, and I'm doing everything I can to maketheir reading as easy and pleasurable as ours. I hope what I'm saying doesn't sound like a lecture. It's not meant that way. I'm pleading with you to learn about how fonts work and why theymatter. I used to do the same thing as you, changing mine to Times New Romanas well. Then Judy and Valerie came into my life and opened my eyes andheart to their needs. Since then I began paying attention to the fonts in myscans before submitting them. Now I make sure the fonts for chapters are correct as I strip headers in my books. This isn't an absolute thing, and it's not a show-stopper in the grand scheme of things. If you know for sure that the submitter hasn't done any work with the fonts, changing the font probably won't matter. If yourscreenreader won't speak the text in Word, you may have to change it to 12 point as a base. In that case, will you please consider taking the time toenlarge the font for chapter headings to 14 or 16 point? You can do thatquickly by selecting the chapter name or number and pressing control right bracket in Kurzweil or shift control right bracket in Word. It will increasethe point size each time you press the keystroke, and you should hear thefont size when it changes. The left bracket makes the font smaller, by theway. It does take extra time to do this. I freely admit that. If you are blindlike me, fonts mean very little since we can't see them. Still, I know I'd want help if something was causing my Braille books to read badly, so I taketime to do it for others who need it. Monica Willyard "The best way to predict the future is to create it." -- Peter Drucker -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Melissa Smith Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 8:31 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bolded words in text I select the whole document, and set the font to Times New Roman, and 12 Point. I leave alone the box that has the style. This leaves any bold or italicized text the way it is. I do this in every book I proof. Melissa To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4580 (20091106) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
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