[birdky] Re: ?
- From: Sean Ward <sean.et.cetera@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: cbirding@xxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:40:55 -0400
So I was close; I swear Eileen's initial e-mail said "tailed", not
"shouldered", and that's the only reason I even considered "tailed".
Noted: don't try to ID birds when it's time for bed.
The immature/juvenile classification has always been confusing for me as
well.
Sean
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:12 AM, cbirding@xxxxxxx <cbirding@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Copied from eBird...
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> What is the difference between a 'juvenile' and an 'immature'?
> When in doubt use 'Immature' for any bird that is not an adult. 'Juvenile'
> is more specific, describing a bird still in its juvenile plumage. This
> plumage is held only briefly for many songbirds (just a few weeks after
> leaving the nest) or up to a year for some larger birds like hawks. Once a
> bird has molted out of this plumage it is no longer a juvenile. If you
> can't determine this, but know that the bird isn't an adult, just use
> 'Immature'.
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> Tom Becker
> Floyd County, IN
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eileen Wicker <raptors@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: 'Charles Crawford' <cr4d@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; BirdKY <birdky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wed, Apr 17, 2013 8:04 am
> Subject: [birdky] Re: ?
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> Well I probably should have said immature but I interchange the word for
> first year birds. Anything that has not molted for the first time. There
> may be a defining item or technically a time period and if so I would
> tend
> to lean towards juvenile being the younger of the two. Since this bird
> is
> well through its first winter it is much more likely to survive through the
> first molt. I am thinking RSHs do not molt until they are older--past the
> 1 year hatch date, I think I recall around 15 months. Nothing scientific
> about that but we have had females in immature plumage nesting and raising
> young with males in full adult plumage.
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> Eileen
> Eileen P. Wicker
> Raptor Rehabilitation of Kentucky Inc
> www.raptorrehab.org
> (502)491-1939
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> When the power of love overcomes the love of power-the world will know
> peace!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Crawford [mailto:cr4d@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 7:44 AM
> To: BIRDKY
> Cc: Eileen Wicker
> Subject: Re: [birdky] Re: ?
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> I've been confused in the past! But what is the difference between
> juvenile
> and immature??
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> Charlie
> Henderson Co.
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> On Apr 16, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Eileen Wicker wrote:
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> > Pretty sure that is a juvenile Red Shouldered Hawk.
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> > Eileen
> > Eileen P. Wicker
> > Raptor Rehabilitation of Kentucky Inc
> > www.raptorrehab.org
> > (502)491-1939
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> > When the power of love overcomes the love of power-the world will know
> > peace!
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: birdky-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:birdky-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Jeff Finn
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 8:28 PM
> > To: 'birdky'
> > Subject: [birdky] ?
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> > This guy flew down to my pond yesterday being tormented by crows. I
> > could use a little help on this one's ID. I realize the picture could be
> better.
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