This message was posted by Rod or Sharon on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/1/964/2.html#000024 And Now For The Rest of The Story, as Paul Harvey use to say.... Now you have given some info....Flex Fits, the cap band is elastic and stretches. These are some of the more difficult caps to deal with and the cap band , because of the way it is sewn into the cap, isn't as wide and great care has to be exercised in getting the cap hooped as tightly as possible by ironing out the face of the cap as Herb demonstrates in the video. There is a great temptation to bend that bill back and try to expose more of the capband, trying to get a deeper bite on the band with the frame teeth but you will quickly get past the DMZ and into the battle zone by doing so. Sometimes, two layers of backing helps, sometimes and I am biting my tongue to say this, but a bit of sticky spray between the backing and the elastic band can help with the problem. Most of the ladies don't have the strength in their hands to hoop some of these caps tight enough and every little trick may help.... Flex fits....I don't like to embroidery on them, I can do it with the WACF style, but usually I will revert back to the old Melco CCF/WAD frame to do these. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================