This message was posted by Knehmer on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/1/964.html#000012 I ran 2 dozen hats today on my PR600--no problems, I do know how to hoop a hat. Tried to do one on the XT with the WACF and am pulling my air our. Ran first hat succesfully but didn't like the digitizing and change it up a little (just added an outline). Second hat I have been struggling with for more than an hour. Everytime I do a trace the hat comes off of the hoop. I even reduced the design just to see if I'd have the same problem and yup I do--can't be the stitching cause I can't even get that far. Tightened the strap up so tight I couldn't even get the hat off of the hooping device, but the hat still comes "unhooped" when I do a trace! Any ideas, I'm nearly blad! =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================