This message was posted by Juli in Kona on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/1/964.html#000001 I finally bought one of the older cap frames - the one with the green plastic on the bar in the front. All my trouble, frustration, hairpulling, etc went away! They are fast and easy to hoop with. Only thing is, you can't sew on the sides. Since I rarely do that, the older frames are perfect. Then I bought another one, so I have two. Juli =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================