[windows2000] Re: MS Messenger
- From: "Sorin Srbu" <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 15:20:37 +0100
Berny Stapleton <> wrote on Thursday, March 08, 2007 3:16 PM:
Good points. Thx.
> What does LCS do for you..... Let me see...
>
> Cons:
>
> - Costs an absolute fortune, each different bit of functionality is
> another license
> - Monthly charges for external internet access
> - Resource utilisation is higher as there is more components
>
>
> Pros:
> - Scalability - If I had to deploy something for a 90,000+ people I must
> admit I would certainly be more inclined to go for LCS
> - Video and telephony integration
> - Integration with Outlook and Sharepoint portal servers giving user
> status awareness in application.
> - Logging to a SQL database. So if you wanted to, you could write a web
> page to pull the data out
>
> If I was going to deploy something for up to about 5,000 people, I would
> get wildfire, stick it in a VM, set it up and forget about it. Keep an eye
> out when there is new versions and that's it.
>
> Berny
>
>
>> Berny Stapleton <> wrote on Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:22 PM:
>>
>> Interesting! I'll look into it.
>>
>> What would Microsoft Live Communications Server do for me? We don't use
>> Exchange or anything, only the Outlook clients.
>>
>>
>>> My personal favourite for messenger solutions is a jabber based solution
>>> which can connect out to the rest of the internet.
>>>
>>> It's called Wildfire. It's free, open source, but it's dual licensed if
>>> you want it to be a commercial solution too, it can be.
>>>
>>> http://www.jivesoftware.org/wildfire/
>>>
>>> I use it with the Pandion client.
>>>
>>> http://www.pandion.be/
>>>
>>> This gives you everything you want, I have written docs on it for a
>>> previous version, and it does integrated authentication, can be controlled
>>> by NT groups, has LDAP connections for connection back into Active
>>> Directory. Personally, I think it's a great solution. I have implemented
>>> Microsoft Live Communications Server, and this is equal in quality as far
>>> as I am concerned. The only big thing that LCS does that Wildfire doesn't
>>> do is logging straight into a SQL database. LCS also integrates into
>>> Active Directory users and computers, but as far as I can see if the
>>> helpdesk staff know what groups can be used for turning on Instant
>>> Messaging, what more do you need?
>>>
>>> Berny
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Due to popular demand at our department (and the boss pressing me on
>>>> it...) I've taken up testing out this new-fangled thing called Instant
>>>> Messaging (IM).
>>>>
>>>> First I looked at was MSN Messenger v7.5, which looks ok, but it's
>>>> chockfull of ads and other irritating stuff. Then found on Wikipedia
>>>> there's a Live Messenger v8beta (haven't tried it yet). Yet another I've
>>>> found and that looks interesting is Gaim, capable of several protocols,
>>>> including Jabber which apparentely supports group conferences, something
>>>> Messenger does not AFAIK.
>>>>
>>>> I'm a bit confused though about MS Messenger. I don't quite see the
>>>> difference between them. Anybody care to explain this to me? Or point me
>>>> to good place for this.
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise, anything or any gotchas' I should be aware of when dealing
>>>> with IM (except for viruses and stuff)?
>>>>
>>>> TIA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BW,
>>>>
>>>> Sorin
>>>>
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