What does LCS do for you..... Let me see... Cons: - Costs an absolute fortune, each different bit of functionality is another license - Monthly charges for external internet access - Resource utilisation is higher as there is more components Pros: - Scalability - If I had to deploy something for a 90,000+ people I must admit I would certainly be more inclined to go for LCS - Video and telephony integration - Integration with Outlook and Sharepoint portal servers giving user status awareness in application. - Logging to a SQL database. So if you wanted to, you could write a web page to pull the data out If I was going to deploy something for up to about 5,000 people, I would get wildfire, stick it in a VM, set it up and forget about it. Keep an eye out when there is new versions and that's it. Berny > Berny Stapleton <> wrote on Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:22 PM: > > Interesting! I'll look into it. > > What would Microsoft Live Communications Server do for me? We don't use > Exchange or anything, only the Outlook clients. > > >> My personal favourite for messenger solutions is a jabber based solution >> which can connect out to the rest of the internet. >> >> It's called Wildfire. It's free, open source, but it's dual licensed if >> you want it to be a commercial solution too, it can be. >> >> http://www.jivesoftware.org/wildfire/ >> >> I use it with the Pandion client. >> >> http://www.pandion.be/ >> >> This gives you everything you want, I have written docs on it for a >> previous version, and it does integrated authentication, can be >> controlled >> by NT groups, has LDAP connections for connection back into Active >> Directory. Personally, I think it's a great solution. I have implemented >> Microsoft Live Communications Server, and this is equal in quality as >> far >> as I am concerned. The only big thing that LCS does that Wildfire >> doesn't >> do is logging straight into a SQL database. LCS also integrates into >> Active Directory users and computers, but as far as I can see if the >> helpdesk staff know what groups can be used for turning on Instant >> Messaging, what more do you need? >> >> Berny >> >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Due to popular demand at our department (and the boss pressing me on >>> it...) >>> I've taken up testing out this new-fangled thing called Instant >>> Messaging >>> (IM). >>> >>> First I looked at was MSN Messenger v7.5, which looks ok, but it's >>> chockfull of ads and other irritating stuff. Then found on Wikipedia >>> there's a Live Messenger v8beta (haven't tried it yet). Yet another >>> I've >>> found and that looks interesting is Gaim, capable of several protocols, >>> including Jabber which apparentely supports group conferences, >>> something >>> Messenger does not AFAIK. >>> >>> I'm a bit confused though about MS Messenger. I don't quite see the >>> difference between them. Anybody care to explain this to me? Or point >>> me >>> to good place for this. >>> >>> Otherwise, anything or any gotchas' I should be aware of when dealing >>> with >>> IM (except for viruses and stuff)? >>> >>> TIA. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> BW, >>> >>> Sorin >>> >>> # Sorin Srbu, Systems Engineer Web: http://www.orgfarm.uu.se >>> # Dept of Medicinal Chemistry, Phone: +46 (0)18-4714482 >3 signals> > GSM >>> # Div of Org Pharm Chem, Mobile: +46 (0)701-718023 >>> # Box 574, Uppsala University, Fax: +46 (0)18-4714482 >>> # SE-751 23 Uppsala, Sweden Visit: BMC, Husargatan 3, D5:512b # >>> # () ASCII ribbon campaign - Against html E-mail >>> # /\ >>> # >>> # Harmless tagline follows: >>> # >>> # I work hard. I don't work miracles. >>> >>> ***************************** >>> New Site from The Kenzig Group! >>> Windows Vista Links, list options >>> and info are available at: >>> http://www.VistaPop.com >>> ***************************** >>> To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation >>> mode or view archives use the below link. >>> >>> http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm >>> >> >> ***************************** >> New Site from The Kenzig Group! >> Windows Vista Links, list options >> and info are available at: >> http://www.VistaPop.com >> ***************************** >> To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation >> mode or view archives use the below link. >> >> http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm > > ***************************** > New Site from The Kenzig Group! > Windows Vista Links, list options > and info are available at: > http://www.VistaPop.com > ***************************** > To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation > mode or view archives use the below link. > > http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm > ***************************** New Site from The Kenzig Group! Windows Vista Links, list options and info are available at: http://www.VistaPop.com ***************************** To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm