[THIN] Re: SATA drives
- From: "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 09:18:40 -0700
No, SATA with NCQ can handle multiple commands in the channel.
Here is write up from Seagate:
http://www.seagate.com/products/interface/sata/native.html
More or less, the performance difference of SATA and SCSI has to do with
spindle speed. Sure SCSI is better, but it's also running at 10k or 15k.
Most SATA drives run at 5.4k or 7.2k with a few running at 10k.
Joe
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jeff Pitsch
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 9:08 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: SATA drives
Provision is good stuff. I'm pitching it more and more to my customers who
don't like paying the Citrix price. I truly believe Citrix is missing the
boat by not dropping prices.
As for SATA vs SCSI, is it still true that SATA can only handle one command
in the channel at a time?
Jeff Pitsch
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On 10/3/06, Jim Kerr <jim@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Absolutely. Provision offers some compelling features to really make you
look at how you're doing things and at what expense. I have to say that the
Ghostine's did a wonderful job with their seamless windows implementation.
It's good stuff.
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From: "Andrew Wood" < <mailto:andrew.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:47 AM
Subject: [THIN] Re: SATA drives
> And Provision definitely making people sit up I think...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Jim Kerr
> Sent: 03 October 2006 16:19
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: SATA drives
>
> Actually I see more and more companies using TS now days.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "richard van beers" <richard.van.beers@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >
> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 6:39 AM
> Subject: [THIN] Re: SATA drives
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>
>> Everyone has assholes and opinions.
>>
>> Citrix uses less bw than TS, clearly in a thin client env. TS RDP is
>> teh bottleneck.
>>
>> So there is no use for plain TS systems?
>>
>> Of course there is!
>>
>> If I need a system to supply 10 users with ms office, and they need it
>> on the cheap, a single proc system with 1 gb, and a mirrored sata
>> drive is "good enough" and will save me 100's on scsi.
>>
>> so, there. :)
>>
>> On 10/3/06, Andrew Wood < andrew.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >"There might be times when a *subpar* system is "good enough". Often,
>>> actually. "
>>>
>>> I think that's short sighted and shooting yourself in the foot before
>>> you
>>> even get off the ground
>>>
>>> ;)
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of richard van beers
>>> Sent: 03 October 2006 09:38
>>> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [THIN] Re: SATA drives
>>>
>>> > I'm sorry there is no good arguement for going SATA over SCSI in a TS
>>> > environment. It's short sighted and your shooting yourself in the
>>> > foot before you even get off the ground.
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh cool! A strong opinion and I disagree! (Just slightly)
>>>
>>> There might be times when a subpar system is "good enough". Often,
>>> actually.
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