You don't need an NT domain for your terminal server implementations if = you are going to use NDS.=20 The only thing you need is an NT server somewhere to act as a = TSlicensing server. Weve done pure NDS implementations with Zen works 3.2 and higher on = sites with no AD or NT domain in the past.=20 But I still wouldn't recommend dumping AD in favour of going to NDS. = First of all there is major bugs with the ZEN side of things with = roaming profiles. Weve reported them to Novell and they have kind of = fixed them and in other area cannot fix them because of the way Zen = works works. The biggest problem with pure NDS/Zen implementations and Terminal = services/Citrix is the DLU (Dynamic Local User). This is required if you = have no NT domain and you are using Win2k Group Policies to manage = desktops. Besides all of this, You will be quickly frustrated with Novells = Support. Its pathetic to say the least. Tony Lyne Senior Systems Engineer=20 Computerland Central=20 P O Box 1470=20 PALMERSTON NORTH Telephone (+64) 06 3537300 Facsimile (+64) 06 3566800 Mobile (+64) 0274 720696 E-mail Tony.Lyne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Internet http://www.computerland.co.nz CAUTION: This e-mail message and accompanying data may contain = information that is confidential and subject to privilege. If you are = not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, = dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is = prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me = immediately and delete all material pertaining to this e-mail. Thank = you. =A0 -----Original Message----- From: Chris Lynch [mailto:lynch00@xxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:04 p.m. To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: NDS and Zenworks =3D20 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Also, it's an extreme nightmare to manage a Terminal Server environment = =3D within an NDS environment. You will still need an NT domain for your = =3D users, if you have multiple Terminal Servers they log into. Not to =3D mention profiles. Chris - -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On = =3D Behalf Of Charlie Fraser Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 3:02 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] NDS and Zenworks We are considering getting rid of Active Directory in favor of NDS = and=3D20 use ZenWorks to manage our Citrix server. Does anyone run NDS and = or=3D20 Zenworks now? How much of a pain is it going to be to transition 6=3D20 servers and about 200 users? Thoughts? Opinions? Charlie ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor - Emergent Online EOL's Universal Printer new Features include: Network Printing, Pagestreaming, 2400 DPI. No Client Software Required! http://www.go-eol.com/ ********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=3D20 set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: =3D http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0 Comment: Public PGP key for Chris Lynch iQA/AwUBPoDuf29fg+xq5T3MEQKdfQCg9BcO2I3AYkyWVZ4F8xn9n5CfTMkAnAwT B/dLGE7aY7nVjOlmZRjotLi7 =3D3Dw6KN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor - Emergent Online EOL's Universal Printer new Features include: Network Printing, Pagestreaming, 2400 DPI. No Client Software Required! http://www.go-eol.com/ ********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=20 set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor - Emergent Online EOL's Universal Printer new Features include: Network Printing, Pagestreaming, 2400 DPI. No Client Software Required! http://www.go-eol.com/ ********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm