[THIN] Re: NDS and Zenworks
- From: "Chris Lynch" <lynch00@xxxxxxx>
- To: "'Charlie Fraser'" <fraserc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 09:14:49 -0800
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If your desktop group wants a good application to push out software,
then look at Intel LanDesk 6.2. There are other apps out there that
work ALOT better than ZenWorks (Zen it is not). I know that there is
Marimba, and someone made a mention of another application that will
push out software (I believe the topic was pushing software to
MetaFrame servers).
Hell, try to manage a Novell box, and it's harder to manage than a
Windows 2000/2003 server. Also, try to effectively manage a Novell
environment with WMI or VBScript. Very limited (for very good
reasons).
Chris
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From: Charlie Fraser [mailto:fraserc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:25 PM
To: lynch00@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [THIN] Re: NDS and Zenworks
Chris, Thanks for your interest! My boss hit me with this today. Our
desktop management is moving to ZenWorks. My boss feels that if we
can get rid of AD the 2K servers will be easier to manage. Also a
Netware saleman got management hot on the idea. I already explained
that this will mean a total re-engineering of how Citrix is deployed.
My boss wants hard proof though.
Charlie
Chris Lynch wrote:
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I don't know where you can get horror stories, I just know from
experience, and other case studies. There are case studies on
Microsoft's site and NetIQ's site. Both are well done.
You need to explain that if you want to go to NDS, you will still
have to have an NT domain. Period. You will find that you will run
into issues if you don't. That is, if your FP servers and other
servers that are going to contain data are not Novell servers. If
they are going to be Windows NT/2000 based, you will have an extreme
administrative overhead. Managing multiple user accounts.
Can I ask why management is considering going to NDS and NOT AD? I
feel that I could better help you if I knew that.
Chris
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From: Charlie Fraser [mailto:fraserc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:23 PM
To: lynch00@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [THIN] Re: NDS and Zenworks
Chris, Management is considering it. We aren't having problems
persay.
We currently have LDAP, NDS and AD. They want to look at getting rid
of
AD all together for ease of use and consolidation. I am gathering
preliminary data. I agree that in an existing enviroment a change at
this point will be very costly in time, consulting and learning
curve. I
have to prove it now. Any idea where I can get case studies. horror
stories???????
Charlie
Chris Lynch wrote:
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Why are you getting rid of AD? What problems are you having? I would
= never recommend ANYONE going to NDS over AD.
Chris
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
Behalf Of Charlie Fraser
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 3:02 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] NDS and Zenworks
We are considering getting rid of Active Directory in favor of NDS
and=20 use ZenWorks to manage our Citrix server. Does anyone run NDS
and or=20 Zenworks now? How much of a pain is it going to be to
transition 6=20 servers and about 200 users? Thoughts? Opinions?
Charlie
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