[TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC Update
- From: mebonnell@xxxxxxxxx (Max Bonnell)
- To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 11:59:03 -0500
I second that.
This is getting long. I removed 18 lost password messages at the end of
this.
Max Bonnell
Bonnell TV
Robinson, IL
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Re: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC Update:
Has gone on far too long in my humble opinion.
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Since 1972
Jim Myers
Telrad Electronics
Fort Wayne, Indiana
Phillip R. Hull wrote:
"..German people are the chosen of God. On me, the German Emperor, the
spirit of God has descended. I am His sword, His weapon, and His
vice-regent. Woe to the disobedient and death to cowards and
unbelievers."
King of Prussia (Germany). Speech to Soldiers at Berlin, August 4th
1914.
It centainly was not just Hitler and his views it was all of Germany.
http://www.ChristiansBibleStudy.org
Phillip R Hull =A0 =A0 STET
phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
FAX 517--569-3075
Professional Technicians only
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerome Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 10:17 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC Update:
People turned to hitler because of the terrible depression in Germany
because they lost the war. Without the depression there would not have
been
a change of government. Remember, Kaiser is the Germanic version of
Ceasar,
like Czar was the Russian version. Also Japans goal was, at least at the
time, to take over the islands of the Pacific. They thought we would
just sue for peace and give them the Pacific because of our
preoccupation with the war in Europe. When we did not, somebody over
there said "uh-oh". Jerry Silverman
Greentron Inc
4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609
864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080
greentron@xxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 4:37 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC Update:
There still is Hitler which took power after WW1 He would still
probably
have conived himself to power in the 1930's. and if not what about
Japan??
They also wanted would dominance, and thought themself superior to
everyone.
Phillip R Hull =A0 =A0 STET
phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
FAX 517--569-3075
Professional Technicians only
----- Original Message -----
From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 2:16 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC Update:
There wouldnt have been a WWII because the Kaiser would have won WWI,
so
there would not have been a Hitler.
Jerry Silverman
Greentron Inc
4 Newland Ave
Greenville SC 29609
864 232 3889
Fax 271 2080
mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 9:44 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC Update:
Speaking of American Indians, If there never was a America who
would
have
won WWII? It was American Planes and ships and ammo and troops,
that
were
used to win this war. =A0 Hitler would have probably Killed every
Indian
when
he took over the world, and there would be no American Indians
today.
Phillip R Hull =A0 =A0 STET
phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
FAX 517--569-3075
Professional Technicians only
----- Original Message -----
From: "walter wood" <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 9:24 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC Update:
Yes, just about every flea bag motel and convinence store around here is
run by Indians.
I used to hear about the "no interest" loans that they got, but the
store owner here(American) is a very well connected and political guy,
and he says there is no truth to that.
What the Indians, and Mexicans really do, is pool their money from a
whole family, or even a whole village, to get one person here to buy a
business. They live very cheaply, and bring others over as they can.
The Mexicans are taking over the restaurant business here.
We even have an Italian restaurant here that is owned and staffed by
Mexicans.
It's very good too.
In just the last year, many shops in Gatlinburg Tn.(major tourist trap)
have been taken over by the folks from India
Go figure!!
Whatever the truth is, this fact is putting more and more "Americans"
out of work, and out of business.
Of course, except for the American Indian(Sioux, Comanche etc.) we are
ALL immigrants.
The American Indians are the ones with the right to bitch.
Walter
--- Tel-Tek <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Strange thing Walt. Just when you mentioned "Folks from India."
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0These people seem to run their business on a
Cash Basis, or at least a
check.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Ever wonder how a presumed ex-Third World
Country is managing to almost
take over the Hospitality Business in North America.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Most are paid for with no Bank Loans. (US
Banks).
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Here in Canada the Electronic Service
Industry and the Hospitality
Industry is almost saturated with Asians and India and Pakistan.
Could this be called In-Sourcing?;-)
You have to give them credit, these people do work hard, to get ahead.
-Ed-
Tel-Tek Electronics
Ontario-Canada
teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "walter wood" <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 10:38 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC Update:
I have the opposite idea.
Since hotel/motel folks buy their sets REAL cheap(and with no warranty),
I have to do the
cheap
fix.
If it fails again, it's their call.
Fix it or replace it.
But there are many advantages to getting in the loop on commercial
repair.
1. They usually have many of the same model.
2. I've found that all of them pay promptly, especially the folks from
India.
3. They usually have back-ups, and the time
span
isn't all that important.
Works for me.
Walter
--- Jerome Silverman <greentron@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I charge more for commercial accounts. They
want
to avoid the inconvenience
and expense of downtime so I fix the fatal problem, replace marginal
parts,
fine tune the adjustments, and do a
reasonable
burn-in. The consumer mainly
wants the fatal problem fixed plus anything
else
that doesnt cost extra.
Jerry Silverman
Greentron Inc
4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609
864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080
greentron@xxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Intrepid Video Support"
<support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 9:51 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC Update:
If you need a little more business, I
suggest
drafting a letter stating a
discount labor rate for
commercial accounts.
I did this and got a good reply from
Howard
Johnson's.
They had over ten sets that were down. I
repaired all the sets that had
that needed repaired, so I
probably won't hear from them for a while,
but
the extra income
helps...and I got paid at drop off.
Jeff
--
Intrepid Video TV/VCR Repair
263 S Front St, Steelton PA 17113
717-939-7708; (F) 717-564-4952
www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net ----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul" <dntwntv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 3:29 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC Update:
Mando, I think your beginning to get the
picture of some of the down sides
of becoming an ASC, and the
hoops that you have to jump through. It is
not
cost effective in many
cases because of the initial outlay
in capital and the length of time it will
take
to recover that outlay. The
picture may not be as rosy as
you had hoped. Don't mean to throw cold
water,
just some observations from
an "old" timer. If this
business was what it was 10-15 years ago it
might be more inviting. But
reality is that too many of us are
struggling just to stay in business and the
number that have already
closed, is not a pretty picture.
Meanig it may take longer than it used to,
if
ever, before it becomes
profitable. What they are asking for
is pretty standard. Been there, done that.
I
applaud your approach in
trying get as much information as
possible, before committing. Keep in mind
you
are just another number to
them. What ever you decide I wish
you well. =A0 =A0 =A0 Paul
armando guerra <birdie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Don't mean to interfere here
but my business insurance is
running at $1900 per yr.Has a 2mil coverage
for
liability among fire and other
coverages.Thats
besides my mortgage
payment.Thats why I don't want to have
to
buy too much more test equipment.I know
that
this is going to sound kind
of poorish to the dealer but I
might
just have him talk to the rca rep and see
if we
can't get away with just
what I have now.I don't mind the
$300. for the service lit.Also,another
question
is? If I do become the rca
sc,will I also be required to
do
the wally-world sets too or do they ship
them
out for repairs?I don't want
to get over my head on this
matter.I like $$$$ but I also want to keep
my
health.Thanks for all the
proffesional feedback that I have
received.
Mando
Birdie's TV & Electronics
Casa Grande,AZ
PS RCA also wants pictures of my work
area,pix
of my test equipment,and
store front.
Also, the sitting area for customers.I
wonder
if they are confusing my
shop with a burger king being that
they
also want a sitting area.
Intrepid Video Support wrote:
Doug,
Is that including your building?
I rent, so this is $1 Mill liability, $2
aggregate and something like
$50k for property, mine and
customers.
Jeff
--
Intrepid Video TV/VCR Repair
263 S Front St, Steelton PA 17113
717-939-7708; (F) 717-564-4952
www.intrepid-video.com
www.tech-repair.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Keller"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 7:12 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC Update:
$500??????? Mine is now almost $1500 a
year.
Doug Keller
Wis-Kel Electronics
101 Freeland Ave.
Terra Alta, WV
USA 26764
dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.tech-assist.org
"Learn from the mistakes of others,
because
you
won't live long enough to make them all
yourself"
Intrepid Video Support wrote:
If you have a store front, you need
liability...what if someone fell
inside your store, or you got
robbed
and all the repaired units were stolen,
or
worse yet, you had a fire?
At $500 a year, the peace of mind is
well
worth it.
Jeff
--
Intrepid Video TV/VCR Repair
263 S Front St, Steelton PA 17113
717-939-7708; (F) 717-564-4952
www.intrepid-video.com
www.tech-repair.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Technotronic Dimensions"
To:
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 12:15 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC
Update:
Doug:
Dunno bout that. These Larger ones Like
RCA
and NAP seem to have
too much bureaucratic overhead going on
to
make any exceptions. RCA
wants
you to own just about every type of Test
Equipment that out there
before you
can even submit the Application. Like
someone else wrote, its mainly
because
they want you to do all the 1st time
Failures which is not Cost
Effective at
all......especially if you just took out
a
loan for all the Test
Equipment
they want you to have, you wind up
working
for free alot of the time,
and if
you have a storefront with overhead,
good
luck !
Another interesting one is Samsung.
Only
thing Stopping me is the
Manditory Insurance. Yet another Expense
we
are to bear. Having that
Conflicts with the Idea that you are a
Skilled and Professional
Servicer. I
suppose there are some shops who it
would
come in handy if they are
scared
of making a huge Blunder on a repair,
but I
never will take a Job if I
feel
I cannot do it right in the 1st Place.
Some
of the larger cities have a
Law
that requires Insurance too. This is one
of
the idiocy ideas that the
rest
of the World must adopt the methods of
Large
Cities, because some
people
there have plundered or Scammed people
in
the past. No one gets a Fresh
Start because of what some moron did
back in
X,Y,Z.....its absurd, and
now
you begin to see what these Stupid Laws
are
doing to the Industries
they
were intended to protect. They were
Short
Term Solutions at best.
Steve Hearns
Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA]
WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM
1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free -
US
Only)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Keller"
To:
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 11:54 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC
Update:
Don't worry about it. When they get
desparate enough for servicers,
they
will relax their requirements. Too many
shops are closing their doors.
Doug Keller
Wis-Kel Electronics
101 Freeland Ave.
Terra Alta, WV
USA 26764
dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.tech-assist.org
"Learn from the mistakes of others,
because
you
won't live long enough to make them all
yourself"
armando guerra wrote:
Thanks to all the reply's on becoming
an
rca asc.I downloaded the
app.from the rca website and there are
quite a few
requirements,i.e.chipper-check which I
don't have and just a few more
as
far as equipment is concerned.I talked
to a
rca rep.and he mentioned
that the new chipper-check is now going
to
cost about $500.00.Also,the
service lit. is about
$300.00.yearly.The
thing that has me worried is
that he say's that I have to buy all
the
parts myself and that they
will
reinburse me at the wholesale price
when I
file the claim.What about
if
the claim is rejected for some reason.I
get
stuck with all this
expense.
How about the new HD parts.Can you
imagine
if I have 3 or 4 sets in
here
and I have to order parts for all of
them.I
hear most of the repairs
will be board replacement only.
I think that I am going to think about
all
this for a awhile yet
before
I decide.
Mando
Birdie's TV & Electronics
Casa Grande,AZ
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