[talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
- From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav <forums@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 20:54:53 +0100
Eleanor,
it is not my view that Talks etc will lose out at this time, if anything,
having this frank view shows one thing, that the iPHone or Android solutions
are not yet ready for our telephony or texting needs.
thus Talks / MS is the only way at this time that we can truly go.
anyone switching to Apple or Android exclusively at this time is going to be
making a sacrifice at this time. maybe not in the future, but for now, yes they
are.
Regards,
Neil Barnfather
Talks List Administrator
Twitter @neilbarnfather
TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
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On 31 May 2011, at 18:31, Eleanor Burke wrote:
I agree with you Saqib. I have some useful jvision but really can only use
touch screen when the light is right for me which is not too often. Usually
only when I am at home in the evening. Come on then all you people at Nuance
and all Talks dealers, do not let Talks loose out to iPhone.
Eleanor
----- Original Message ----- From: "Saqib" <Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 5:14 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
> Should that day arrive! then I will just keep a very simple bottom of the
> range phone to make and receive calls with. I will never fully embrace touch
> screen as it doesn't work for me. It's not that I haven't tried getting on
> with such devices. I was overly excited when Talks and Mobile Speak started
> to support the touch screen devices.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:54 PM
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
>
>> Amie I think it is probably the htc
>> Desire z that you are talking about.
>> I also would fully agree with Adrian and Neil on the pros and cons of touch
>> screen devices.
>> Most people would want to get a new phone perhaps by upgrading through their
>> provider and i think there will soon be no devices with a keypad we can get
>> hold of in this way.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 31 May 2011, at 12:48, "Amie Slavin" <amie.slavin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> It's an Android something Desire. Think it's Android THC Desire; can that
>>> be right?
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
>>> Sent: 31 May 2011 11:51
>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
>>>
>>> How about giving the model number then.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amie Slavin" <amie.slavin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 11:48 AM
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
>>>
>>>
>>>> My partner's android definitely has a proper little qwerty keyboard, I
>>>> promise; it lives in the same house with me lol.
>>>> A
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Graham Page
>>>> Sent: 31 May 2011 09:08
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
>>>>
>>>> Far far from it.
>>>>
>>>> Firstly, most android phones are touch screen phones. Some have a track
>>>> ball or arrow keys that you can use but the trend is more and more towards
>>>> touch phones.
>>>>
>>>> There is a company called Code Factory that had created some accessible
>>>> programs and a screenreader to work on android phones. This is great and
>>>> the programs are accessible but the problem seems to be that there is no
>>>> accessibility built into the heart of Android. It is fair to say that
>>>> Android phones and IPhones will eventually both be very accessible but
>>>> these are all touch screen phones. We really do need an alternative with
>>>> a
>>>> t9 keypad.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Graham
>>>>
>>>> Graham Page
>>>> Mobile: 07753 607980
>>>> Fax: 0870 706 2773
>>>> Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Skype: gabriel_mcbird
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Amie Slavin
>>>> Sent: 31 May 2011 08:40
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
>>>>
>>>> Sounds sensible. What about android though? That seems like maybe the
>>>> full
>>>> solution to everything, is it?
>>>> A
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
>>>> Sent: 30 May 2011 22:31
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: buying a new phone
>>>>
>>>> Paul,
>>>>
>>>> firstly, :) grin, this is a Talks list, and as such, not really tasked
>>>> with
>>>> helping you choose between a Talks powered device and a none Talks device.
>>>>
>>>> however, since this is a highly covered topic right now here's a view for
>>>> you.
>>>>
>>>> The iPhone is a very good consumption product, that is to say, if you are
>>>> accessing info from it then it is excellent. however, if your objective is
>>>> to input into it, then it starts undoing at the scenes.
>>>>
>>>> let me explain some more, the iPhone is very well adapted for our needs
>>>> when
>>>> you consider accessing apps, reading web pages, reading e-mail, reading
>>>> text
>>>> messages, checking the weather or listening to music / pod casts.
>>>>
>>>> where it falls down is the reverse of this, i.e. you inputting data back
>>>> into it, in these instances it is slow, cumber sum and irritating.
>>>>
>>>> this is not an exclusive issue to iPhone, but in fact almost any touch
>>>> only
>>>> device. so notably though since we're on the Apple cart, so to speak, iPad
>>>> and iPod Touch etc.
>>>>
>>>> My advice would be this, consider your phone call and SMS text messaging
>>>> one
>>>> issue, and your other mobile needs another. a touch only device is never
>>>> going to be that great as a device for making and receiving calls and
>>>> typing
>>>> out SMS messages... its just not, and yes, sure some folk will say that
>>>> you
>>>> can cart about blue tooth keyboards etc, but its just adding complexity
>>>> and
>>>> weight to a solution, when something perfectly good without those issues
>>>> already exists.
>>>>
>>>> Now for your music playing, podcast listening, possibly internet surfing,
>>>> depending on what you do online, i.e. surfing to read, or inputting to,
>>>> and
>>>> app usage, these are things that the iOS Apple devices do well.
>>>>
>>>> My personal recommendation would be an iPod Touch, basically an iPhone
>>>> without the phone, you can install Skype etc onto it, making it into a
>>>> phone
>>>> should you wish to, but principally it is cheaper, no rental and will give
>>>> you all the advantages of this type of device... but will not compromise
>>>> your phone call / texting ability.
>>>>
>>>> I hope that this helps in some way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Neil Barnfather
>>>>
>>>> Talks List Administrator
>>>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>>>>
>>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
>>>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>>>>
>>>> URL: - www.talknav.com
>>>> e-mail: - service@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 30 May 2011, at 22:19, Paul Roberts wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Whilst I am generally happy with my E51, which I have had since june 2009,
>>>
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>> feel I would like to upgrade to something which I may find is easier to
>>>> navigate round the internet.
>>>>
>>>> I either want something like an E71, whith it's very wel defined keyborad
>>>> or, I may be brave and go for an Apple Iphone.
>>>>
>>>> regarding the latter, I was told by someone on Saturday night that I could
>>>> get one of these from a Vodafone store but is this the case as I wouldn't
>>>> have thought so.
>>>>
>>>> I am on a contract and may visit the store tomorrow afternoon.
>>>>
>>>> I did have a go with an Iphone on saturday night, although I feel I could
>>>> do
>>>>
>>>> with more time to play with one, before deciding whether or not to buy
>>>> one.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts and suggestions on the above would be most welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> paul.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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