N96, Sorry. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Nutt - Email Address: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent On: 21/09/2008 00:09 Sent To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Talk about N82 Hi, Do you mean the N82? About 299 pounds. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott C Sent: Sunday 21 September 2008 00:06 To: Talks List Talks List Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Talk about N82 Hi mate what are they stinging folk for it then sim free at the minute? -----Original Message----- From: Steve Dryden - Email Address: steve.dryden@xxxxxxx Sent On: 20/09/2008 23:40 Sent To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Talk about N82 Hahahah, yup! wouldn't be able to afford the N96 sim free though! smiles. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 5:55 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Talk about N82 > Hey Steve, > > I have an N95 8 and an N82, and the N82 easily outdoes it on battery life > as > well. I don't like the fact that the N95-8 slides open in your pocket, > but > hey, that's just my opinion too. > > By the way, the N96 is already out I believe, but it won't be with > operators > for a while yet. Another reason to buy Sim-Free. > > All the best > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Steve Dryden > Sent: Saturday 20 September 2008 17:50 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Talk about N82 > > Hmmmm, thing is Walter, the N95 will do everything he talks about his N82 > doing. OK, I know there was a bit of a problem with the older N95 and the > battery life but the 8 gig version of the N95 doesn't seem to have those > issues. I have the N95 8 gig and yes, I can put on the audible reader, I > can do the podcast downloads from my home network or even do the hotspot > thing as well. I was on my way to a meeting the other week and decided to > log into the trains wi fi network and check out some websites. I listened > to some music extensively and made several calls and still had battery > life > when I got home 10 hours later. Yes, the N82 does have a slightly faster > internal processor and some may argue that it's got a better GPS receiver > built in but I'd always go for the N95 anyday. I just think the N82 is > ugly > > and cheap looking. It has a flimsy build and feels like cheap plastic. > But, hey, smiles. that's only my view. Other people will have other ideas > I'm sure. You'll find it difficult to get one on upgrade next year as > they've already stopped being supplied by providers. Soon, the N96 will > be > out and that's a completely different beast entirely! hahahaha. Might > even > flog my N95 8 gig for one of those! smiles. > > Steve > > PS, please everyone, do not start flaming me for not likeing the N82, it's > just my opinion ok! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Walter Ramage" <wpr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 1:22 PM > Subject: [talks-uk] Talk about N82 > > >> Hi Folks. I thought you may find interesting the exchange of posts on >> another list I'm on. The guy refers to his use of the N82, sounds a hell >> of >> a lot better than the N95 I have and wish I had got that with my last >> upgrade rather than the N95. Will consider it though in a years time >> when >> my next upgrade is due. Walter. >> >> Hi Orhan, different strokes etc for sure. But I use my N82 when I am >> mobile, >> and I am often very mobile. One of the things we haven't covered during >> this >> round of discussion on this subject, is that devices like the nano, the >> Stream and the Zenstone are not capable of downloading content directly >> over >> the air to the device. So for example, Vodafone here in New Zealand have >> a >> subscription service with over a million tracks available for a weekly >> fee. >> And they have an HSDPA network, which is faster than 3G. This means it is >> very easy to download tracks to a compatible device, and those tracks are >> available at no additional charge once you pay the subscription fee. It >> is >> pretty cool to have over a million tracks accessible to you from the >> device >> you'd be carrying in your pocket anyway. >> >> Podcasts are another example. Sometimes I catch 12 hour flights, so I >> load >> my N82 up with podcasts. I've listened to them by the time I arrive, and >> I >> may have another flight ahead of me. So I can connect the phone to a >> hotspot >> at the airport since the phone is equipped with WiFi, and download a >> bunch >> of new podcasts. And the N82 remembers your place in each of those >> podcasts. >> Using a less capable device, I would have to use a PC to download >> podcasts >> and then sync, which is a hassle and more time consuming. >> >> Similarly with Audible books. On the N82, I have access to my entire >> Audible >> library over the air, including newspaper subscriptions. So if I want >> another book, I can grab one without having to get to a PC. >> >> And I now have strategies in place that ensure I can get through a good >> 40-something hours of travel without running out of juice. >> >> Interestingly, this is the way Apple is going with the iPhone, which is, >> to >> Apples credit, starting to establish that Smartphone culture in the US, >> but >> of course is not accessible to us. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of orhan deniz >> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 10:50 p.m. >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: MP3 Playback Options >> >> Hi Jonathan, >> I actually have to agree with you about smart phone culture. I mean, look >> at >> the UK, which is where I live. The dominent phones are smart phones, more >> specifically Symbian phones and the Nokia set of phones. I don't >> personally >> think that a phone will make an awesome MP3 player, but for people who >> mainly listen to music in front of the computer while doing daily tasks >> it >> is sufficient IMHO. >> Best regards, >> Orhan. >> -- >> Orhan Deniz. >> E-mail: >> orhan.deniz63@xxxxxxxxx >> MSN/Windows Live ID: >> orhan1793@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Skype: >> orhan.deniz63 >> Blog: >> http://worldandother.wordpress.com >> Twitter: >> http://www.twitter.com/kvp2008 >> Last.fm! Profile: >> http://last.fm/user/orhandeniz1993 >> On Saturday, 20 September 2008 5:58:39 AM, PC Audio Discussion List >> Wrote: >>> Keith, good for you that you have an N95. However, my comment regarding >> the >>> Smartphone culture still stands. if you look at the data, you'll see >>> that >>> the penetration of Symbian devices is lower in the US than most other >>> developed markets. That market data is fairly readily available. There >>> is >>> also plenty of survey data which indicates that the majority of US >> customers >>> feel that they only want their phone to make and receive calls, hence >>> the >>> popularity of the LG and cheaper Motorola phones. Another factor is that >>> many of the Nokia phones do not support the US 3G frequencies, which are >>> different from the rest of the world. >> >>> Getting back to the subject of audio, Code Factory's DAISY player does >> offer >>> extensive bookmarking features, as does an MP3 player I use designed >>> specifically for audio books. I seldom see the N82 lock up. >> >>> Battery life can certainly be a concern. Some of the newer Nokia phones >> such >>> as the N78 offer over 24 hours of playback time and include handy >>> features >>> such as an FM transmitter. >> >>> There are versions of the N95 where the battery life is a serious >>> problem >>> for sure. There are external battery packs or even second batteries that >> can >>> mitigate this, but some phones simply perform for much longer. >> >>> The bottom line is that different combinations of solutions, and indeed >> just >>> different solutions, work for different people, and sometimes it's just >>> a >>> matter of preference. >> >>> Jonathan >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] >>> On Behalf Of Keith Gillard >>> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 12:38 p.m. >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano. >> >>> Once again Jonny your bias prompts me to respond. Which company aare >>> you >>> working for now? >> >>> So, you WROTE: >> >> >>> Hi Ken, my personal view is that you need to look at music in the >>> context >> of >>> what else you might like to do on the go. For example, if you use a cell >>> phone or might like to, then getting an accessible cell phone with a >>> good >>> music player, such as those from Nokia, might be the best option. The >> Victor >>> Reader Stream will play NLS books, which in North America is certainly a >>> factor, however other than this, I see no point in it at all. It is >> another >>> device to carry around. The Stream sells fairly well in North America, >> where >>> the smart phone culture is not well established. But on the Nokia N82 I >>> have, not only can I read print on the go with the KNFB Reader mobile, >>> but >> I >>> can also play DAISY books, work with MP3 files in a very accessible and >>> flexible way, listen to Audible content and download podcasts right from >> the >>> phone. So there is no need to carry another device around with me that >>> duplicates those functions. >> >>> If you don't want an accessible cell phone, then there are many portable >>> music playback options. The Stream is certainly worth considering and >>> that >>> will also read DAISY and regular texts. You might even look at an iPod >>> Shuffle which is very easy to operate and small. This will play music >>> and >>> Audible books, but not DAISY. There are many more, the Zenstone seems >> quite >>> popular. And let's not forget the iPod Nano, which talks now. >> >>> Jonathan >> >>> ***Well geeze Louise I only live in Norht America Where, acording to >>> Jahnathan, the smart phone culture is not well established. >> >>> Freaking lol man! >> >>> I guess my n95-3G is of no use to me then right? >> >>> Trust me folks, >>> Symbian offers so much to blind users but, any applications other then >>> talks, Moble Speak or the out ragiously priced KNFB reader, are not >> designed >> >>> with the blind user in mind. However, The Victor reader Stream is a >>> fully >> >>> featured packed unit that is blind friendly! ! >>> And, at a price point that blows away any smart phone and Screen reader >>> combination. Investigate battery life for example. Or look at book >> marking >> >>> and navigation features! Once you do, you will know that the smart >>> phone >>> isn't there yet! >> >>> Like mr. Mossen, I have em all! Every last one of them! some of which >> you >>> likely don't even know of! And what player do I pull out of the night >> stand >> >> >> >>> No, it's not my smart phone! No, it's not my Pakcmate Omni! No, it's >>> not >> >>> my Maestro! No, its not my ZennStone! An no, it's not my beloved >>> Rockbox! >>> Which, I might ad, is a very close second choice as I have had all the >>> target players and, was involved in the beginning. Some may no me as >>> rocker! The inspiration behind the Voice UI! >> >>> Actually; the unit I'm pulling out every night to enjoy my digital >>> content >> >>> is indeed the Humanware Victor Stream! >> >>> It really does boast a wide array of features. Everthing you want from >>> a >>> book reader and a music player! >>> AT $300 US you absolutley can't beat it. >>> It doesn't feel as slick as a smart pone but it will take more pounding >> for >>> sure! >> >>> More over, it won't lock up and cause you to lose your place like the >> other >>> gagets. >> >>> So, Perhaps it's time you Europians took a second look cuzz you must be >>> a >>> little late in jumping on the Stream culture! >>> LOL! >> >>> Rock on...rocker! >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] >>> On Behalf Of Kenbu >>> Sent: Friday, 20 September 2002 9:38 a.m. >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano. >> >>> Hi Jonathan; A quiry here; I've just loaded some music onto a >>> thumbdrive >>> and am wondering if a small unit *to put in my pocket* coul be bought >>> that >>> would enable me to listen independent of my pc? Ken B >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmosen@xxxxxxxxx> >>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:57 AM >>> Subject: RE: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano. >> >> >>>> You do need to connect the Nano to iTunes to configure it, but once >>>> those recordings are transferred to your nano, you don't need to be >>>> connected to iTunes to have the speech. >> >>>> Jonathan >> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>> On Behalf Of Bobcat >>>> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 1:40 a.m. >>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano. >> >>>> Listened to the podcast. Do I understand that it only talks when >>> connected >>>> to Itunes? >> >>>> Bob >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> > >>>> >> From: Shane Jackson <jack728@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> >> Date: 19 September 2008 4:04:24 PM >>>> >> Hello, all. I am cross-posting this to several lists, as the >>>> >> content of this podcast concerns all who are interested in this >>>> >> unique little device. I take you on a tour and a demo of the new, >>>> >> and I mean brand new, talking iPod Nano 4th generation. I also >>>> >> demonstrate some features of Itunes with the Mac and the iPod. >>>> >> Sorry, Windows users, I do not know how to use Itunes under your >>>> >> operating system, so I trust someone will do a fine Windows podcast >>>> >> very soon concerning this very subject. If you want the direct >>>> >> file, it is http://www.shanejackson.net/Talking_iPod_Nano.mp3 and >>>> >> the link for the podcast subscription is >>>> >> http://feeds.feedburner.com/bwbp >> >> >> >>>> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >>>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>> pc-audio-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >>>> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >>>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>> pc-audio-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG. >>>> Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1680 - Release Date: >>>> 9/19/2008 >>> 8:25 AM >> >> >> >> >> >>> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> pc-audio-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >>> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> pc-audio-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >>> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> pc-audio-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >>> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> pc-audio-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> > > > > >