Hi Folks. I thought you may find interesting the exchange of posts
on another list I'm on. The guy refers to his use of the N82,
sounds a hell of
a lot better than the N95 I have and wish I had got that with my last
upgrade rather than the N95. Will consider it though in a years
time when my next upgrade is due. Walter.
Hi Orhan, different strokes etc for sure. But I use my N82 when I am
mobile,
and I am often very mobile. One of the things we haven't covered
during this
round of discussion on this subject, is that devices like the nano,
the Stream and the Zenstone are not capable of downloading content
directly over
the air to the device. So for example, Vodafone here in New Zealand
have a subscription service with over a million tracks available for
a weekly fee.
And they have an HSDPA network, which is faster than 3G. This means
it is very easy to download tracks to a compatible device, and those
tracks are available at no additional charge once you pay the
subscription fee. It is pretty cool to have over a million tracks
accessible to you from the device
you'd be carrying in your pocket anyway.
Podcasts are another example. Sometimes I catch 12 hour flights, so
I load my N82 up with podcasts. I've listened to them by the time I
arrive, and I may have another flight ahead of me. So I can connect
the phone to a hotspot
at the airport since the phone is equipped with WiFi, and download a
bunch of new podcasts. And the N82 remembers your place in each of
those podcasts.
Using a less capable device, I would have to use a PC to download
podcasts and then sync, which is a hassle and more time consuming.
Similarly with Audible books. On the N82, I have access to my entire
Audible
library over the air, including newspaper subscriptions. So if I want
another book, I can grab one without having to get to a PC.
And I now have strategies in place that ensure I can get through a
good 40-something hours of travel without running out of juice.
Interestingly, this is the way Apple is going with the iPhone, which
is, to
Apples credit, starting to establish that Smartphone culture in the
US, but
of course is not accessible to us.
Jonathan
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[mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of orhan deniz
Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 10:50 p.m.
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Subject: Re: MP3 Playback Options
Hi Jonathan,
I actually have to agree with you about smart phone culture. I mean,
look at
the UK, which is where I live. The dominent phones are smart phones,
more specifically Symbian phones and the Nokia set of phones. I don't
personally
think that a phone will make an awesome MP3 player, but for people
who mainly listen to music in front of the computer while doing
daily tasks it is sufficient IMHO.
Best regards,
Orhan.
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On Saturday, 20 September 2008 5:58:39 AM, PC Audio Discussion List
Wrote:
Keith, good for you that you have an N95. However, my comment
regarding the Smartphone culture still stands. if you look at the
data, you'll see that the penetration of Symbian devices is lower
in the US than most other developed markets. That market data is
fairly readily available. There is also plenty of survey data which
indicates that the majority of US customers feel that they only
want their phone to make and receive calls, hence the popularity of
the LG and cheaper Motorola phones. Another factor is that many of
the Nokia phones do not support the US 3G frequencies, which are
different from the rest of the world.
Getting back to the subject of audio, Code Factory's DAISY player
does offer extensive bookmarking features, as does an MP3 player I
use designed specifically for audio books. I seldom see the N82
lock up.
Battery life can certainly be a concern. Some of the newer Nokia
phones such as the N78 offer over 24 hours of playback time and
include handy features
such as an FM transmitter.
There are versions of the N95 where the battery life is a serious
problem for sure. There are external battery packs or even second
batteries that can mitigate this, but some phones simply perform
for much longer.
The bottom line is that different combinations of solutions, and
indeed just different solutions, work for different people, and
sometimes it's just a matter of preference.
Jonathan
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On Behalf Of Keith Gillard
Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 12:38 p.m.
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
Once again Jonny your bias prompts me to respond. Which company
aare you working for now?
So, you WROTE:
Hi Ken, my personal view is that you need to look at music in the
context of what else you might like to do on the go. For example,
if you use a cell phone or might like to, then getting an
accessible cell phone with a good music player, such as those from
Nokia, might be the best option. The Victor Reader Stream will play
NLS books, which in North America is certainly a factor, however
other than this, I see no point in it at all. It is another device
to carry around. The Stream sells fairly well in North America,
where the smart phone culture is not well established. But on the
Nokia N82 I have, not only can I read print on the go with the KNFB
Reader mobile, but
I
can also play DAISY books, work with MP3 files in a very accessible
and flexible way, listen to Audible content and download podcasts
right from the phone. So there is no need to carry another device
around with me that duplicates those functions.
If you don't want an accessible cell phone, then there are many
portable music playback options. The Stream is certainly worth
considering and that
will also read DAISY and regular texts. You might even look at an
iPod Shuffle which is very easy to operate and small. This will
play music and Audible books, but not DAISY. There are many more,
the Zenstone seems quite popular. And let's not forget the iPod
Nano, which talks now.
Jonathan
***Well geeze Louise I only live in Norht America Where, acording to
Jahnathan, the smart phone culture is not well established.
Freaking lol man!
I guess my n95-3G is of no use to me then right?
Trust me folks,
Symbian offers so much to blind users but, any applications other
then talks, Moble Speak or the out ragiously priced KNFB reader,
are not designed
with the blind user in mind. However, The Victor reader Stream is a
fully
featured packed unit that is blind friendly! !
And, at a price point that blows away any smart phone and Screen
reader combination. Investigate battery life for example. Or look
at book marking
and navigation features! Once you do, you will know that the smart
phone isn't there yet!
Like mr. Mossen, I have em all! Every last one of them! some of
which you likely don't even know of! And what player do I pull out
of the night stand
No, it's not my smart phone! No, it's not my Pakcmate Omni! No,
it's not
my Maestro! No, its not my ZennStone! An no, it's not my beloved
Rockbox!
Which, I might ad, is a very close second choice as I have had all
the target players and, was involved in the beginning. Some may no
me as rocker! The inspiration behind the Voice UI!
Actually; the unit I'm pulling out every night to enjoy my digital
content
is indeed the Humanware Victor Stream!
It really does boast a wide array of features. Everthing you want
from a book reader and a music player!
AT $300 US you absolutley can't beat it.
It doesn't feel as slick as a smart pone but it will take more
pounding for sure!
More over, it won't lock up and cause you to lose your place like
the other gagets.
So, Perhaps it's time you Europians took a second look cuzz you
must be a little late in jumping on the Stream culture!
LOL!
Rock on...rocker!
-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Kenbu
Sent: Friday, 20 September 2002 9:38 a.m.
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
Hi Jonathan; A quiry here; I've just loaded some music onto a
thumbdrive and am wondering if a small unit *to put in my pocket*
coul be bought that
would enable me to listen independent of my pc? Ken B
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmosen@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
You do need to connect the Nano to iTunes to configure it, but once
those recordings are transferred to your nano, you don't need to be
connected to iTunes to have the speech.
Jonathan
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From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Bobcat
Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 1:40 a.m.
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
Listened to the podcast. Do I understand that it only talks when
connected to Itunes?
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Shane Jackson <jack728@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 19 September 2008 4:04:24 PM
Hello, all. I am cross-posting this to several lists, as the
content of this podcast concerns all who are interested in this
unique little device. I take you on a tour and a demo of the
new, and I mean brand new, talking iPod Nano 4th generation. I
also demonstrate some features of Itunes with the Mac and the
iPod. Sorry, Windows users, I do not know how to use Itunes
under your operating system, so I trust someone will do a fine
Windows podcast very soon concerning this very subject. If you
want the direct file, it is
http://www.shanejackson.net/Talking_iPod_Nano.mp3 and the link
for the podcast subscription is http://feeds.feedburner.com/bwbp
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