[talks-uk] Re: Talk about N82
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:09:50 +0100
Hi,
Do you mean the N82? About 299 pounds.
All the best
Steve
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Scott C
Sent: Sunday 21 September 2008 00:06
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Talk about N82
Hi mate what are they stinging folk for it then sim free at the minute?
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From: Steve Dryden - Email Address: steve.dryden@xxxxxxx
Sent On: 20/09/2008 23:40
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Talk about N82
Hahahah, yup! wouldn't be able to afford the N96 sim free though! smiles.
Steve
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From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 5:55 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Talk about N82
> Hey Steve,
>
> I have an N95 8 and an N82, and the N82 easily outdoes it on battery life
> as
> well. I don't like the fact that the N95-8 slides open in your pocket,
> but
> hey, that's just my opinion too.
>
> By the way, the N96 is already out I believe, but it won't be with
> operators
> for a while yet. Another reason to buy Sim-Free.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Steve Dryden
> Sent: Saturday 20 September 2008 17:50
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Talk about N82
>
> Hmmmm, thing is Walter, the N95 will do everything he talks about his N82
> doing. OK, I know there was a bit of a problem with the older N95 and the
> battery life but the 8 gig version of the N95 doesn't seem to have those
> issues. I have the N95 8 gig and yes, I can put on the audible reader, I
> can do the podcast downloads from my home network or even do the hotspot
> thing as well. I was on my way to a meeting the other week and decided to
> log into the trains wi fi network and check out some websites. I listened
> to some music extensively and made several calls and still had battery
> life
> when I got home 10 hours later. Yes, the N82 does have a slightly faster
> internal processor and some may argue that it's got a better GPS receiver
> built in but I'd always go for the N95 anyday. I just think the N82 is
> ugly
>
> and cheap looking. It has a flimsy build and feels like cheap plastic.
> But, hey, smiles. that's only my view. Other people will have other ideas
> I'm sure. You'll find it difficult to get one on upgrade next year as
> they've already stopped being supplied by providers. Soon, the N96 will
> be
> out and that's a completely different beast entirely! hahahaha. Might
> even
> flog my N95 8 gig for one of those! smiles.
>
> Steve
>
> PS, please everyone, do not start flaming me for not likeing the N82, it's
> just my opinion ok!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Walter Ramage" <wpr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 1:22 PM
> Subject: [talks-uk] Talk about N82
>
>
>> Hi Folks. I thought you may find interesting the exchange of posts on
>> another list I'm on. The guy refers to his use of the N82, sounds a hell
>> of
>> a lot better than the N95 I have and wish I had got that with my last
>> upgrade rather than the N95. Will consider it though in a years time
>> when
>> my next upgrade is due. Walter.
>>
>> Hi Orhan, different strokes etc for sure. But I use my N82 when I am
>> mobile,
>> and I am often very mobile. One of the things we haven't covered during
>> this
>> round of discussion on this subject, is that devices like the nano, the
>> Stream and the Zenstone are not capable of downloading content directly
>> over
>> the air to the device. So for example, Vodafone here in New Zealand have
>> a
>> subscription service with over a million tracks available for a weekly
>> fee.
>> And they have an HSDPA network, which is faster than 3G. This means it is
>> very easy to download tracks to a compatible device, and those tracks are
>> available at no additional charge once you pay the subscription fee. It
>> is
>> pretty cool to have over a million tracks accessible to you from the
>> device
>> you'd be carrying in your pocket anyway.
>>
>> Podcasts are another example. Sometimes I catch 12 hour flights, so I
>> load
>> my N82 up with podcasts. I've listened to them by the time I arrive, and
>> I
>> may have another flight ahead of me. So I can connect the phone to a
>> hotspot
>> at the airport since the phone is equipped with WiFi, and download a
>> bunch
>> of new podcasts. And the N82 remembers your place in each of those
>> podcasts.
>> Using a less capable device, I would have to use a PC to download
>> podcasts
>> and then sync, which is a hassle and more time consuming.
>>
>> Similarly with Audible books. On the N82, I have access to my entire
>> Audible
>> library over the air, including newspaper subscriptions. So if I want
>> another book, I can grab one without having to get to a PC.
>>
>> And I now have strategies in place that ensure I can get through a good
>> 40-something hours of travel without running out of juice.
>>
>> Interestingly, this is the way Apple is going with the iPhone, which is,
>> to
>> Apples credit, starting to establish that Smartphone culture in the US,
>> but
>> of course is not accessible to us.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of orhan deniz
>> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 10:50 p.m.
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: MP3 Playback Options
>>
>> Hi Jonathan,
>> I actually have to agree with you about smart phone culture. I mean, look
>> at
>> the UK, which is where I live. The dominent phones are smart phones, more
>> specifically Symbian phones and the Nokia set of phones. I don't
>> personally
>> think that a phone will make an awesome MP3 player, but for people who
>> mainly listen to music in front of the computer while doing daily tasks
>> it
>> is sufficient IMHO.
>> Best regards,
>> Orhan.
>> --
>> Orhan Deniz.
>> E-mail:
>> orhan.deniz63@xxxxxxxxx
>> MSN/Windows Live ID:
>> orhan1793@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Skype:
>> orhan.deniz63
>> Blog:
>> http://worldandother.wordpress.com
>> Twitter:
>> http://www.twitter.com/kvp2008
>> Last.fm! Profile:
>> http://last.fm/user/orhandeniz1993
>> On Saturday, 20 September 2008 5:58:39 AM, PC Audio Discussion List
>> Wrote:
>>> Keith, good for you that you have an N95. However, my comment regarding
>> the
>>> Smartphone culture still stands. if you look at the data, you'll see
>>> that
>>> the penetration of Symbian devices is lower in the US than most other
>>> developed markets. That market data is fairly readily available. There
>>> is
>>> also plenty of survey data which indicates that the majority of US
>> customers
>>> feel that they only want their phone to make and receive calls, hence
>>> the
>>> popularity of the LG and cheaper Motorola phones. Another factor is that
>>> many of the Nokia phones do not support the US 3G frequencies, which are
>>> different from the rest of the world.
>>
>>> Getting back to the subject of audio, Code Factory's DAISY player does
>> offer
>>> extensive bookmarking features, as does an MP3 player I use designed
>>> specifically for audio books. I seldom see the N82 lock up.
>>
>>> Battery life can certainly be a concern. Some of the newer Nokia phones
>> such
>>> as the N78 offer over 24 hours of playback time and include handy
>>> features
>>> such as an FM transmitter.
>>
>>> There are versions of the N95 where the battery life is a serious
>>> problem
>>> for sure. There are external battery packs or even second batteries that
>> can
>>> mitigate this, but some phones simply perform for much longer.
>>
>>> The bottom line is that different combinations of solutions, and indeed
>> just
>>> different solutions, work for different people, and sometimes it's just
>>> a
>>> matter of preference.
>>
>>> Jonathan
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Keith Gillard
>>> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 12:38 p.m.
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>>
>>> Once again Jonny your bias prompts me to respond. Which company aare
>>> you
>>> working for now?
>>
>>> So, you WROTE:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Ken, my personal view is that you need to look at music in the
>>> context
>> of
>>> what else you might like to do on the go. For example, if you use a cell
>>> phone or might like to, then getting an accessible cell phone with a
>>> good
>>> music player, such as those from Nokia, might be the best option. The
>> Victor
>>> Reader Stream will play NLS books, which in North America is certainly a
>>> factor, however other than this, I see no point in it at all. It is
>> another
>>> device to carry around. The Stream sells fairly well in North America,
>> where
>>> the smart phone culture is not well established. But on the Nokia N82 I
>>> have, not only can I read print on the go with the KNFB Reader mobile,
>>> but
>> I
>>> can also play DAISY books, work with MP3 files in a very accessible and
>>> flexible way, listen to Audible content and download podcasts right from
>> the
>>> phone. So there is no need to carry another device around with me that
>>> duplicates those functions.
>>
>>> If you don't want an accessible cell phone, then there are many portable
>>> music playback options. The Stream is certainly worth considering and
>>> that
>>> will also read DAISY and regular texts. You might even look at an iPod
>>> Shuffle which is very easy to operate and small. This will play music
>>> and
>>> Audible books, but not DAISY. There are many more, the Zenstone seems
>> quite
>>> popular. And let's not forget the iPod Nano, which talks now.
>>
>>> Jonathan
>>
>>> ***Well geeze Louise I only live in Norht America Where, acording to
>>> Jahnathan, the smart phone culture is not well established.
>>
>>> Freaking lol man!
>>
>>> I guess my n95-3G is of no use to me then right?
>>
>>> Trust me folks,
>>> Symbian offers so much to blind users but, any applications other then
>>> talks, Moble Speak or the out ragiously priced KNFB reader, are not
>> designed
>>
>>> with the blind user in mind. However, The Victor reader Stream is a
>>> fully
>>
>>> featured packed unit that is blind friendly! !
>>> And, at a price point that blows away any smart phone and Screen reader
>>> combination. Investigate battery life for example. Or look at book
>> marking
>>
>>> and navigation features! Once you do, you will know that the smart
>>> phone
>>> isn't there yet!
>>
>>> Like mr. Mossen, I have em all! Every last one of them! some of which
>> you
>>> likely don't even know of! And what player do I pull out of the night
>> stand
>>
>>
>>
>>> No, it's not my smart phone! No, it's not my Pakcmate Omni! No, it's
>>> not
>>
>>> my Maestro! No, its not my ZennStone! An no, it's not my beloved
>>> Rockbox!
>>> Which, I might ad, is a very close second choice as I have had all the
>>> target players and, was involved in the beginning. Some may no me as
>>> rocker! The inspiration behind the Voice UI!
>>
>>> Actually; the unit I'm pulling out every night to enjoy my digital
>>> content
>>
>>> is indeed the Humanware Victor Stream!
>>
>>> It really does boast a wide array of features. Everthing you want from
>>> a
>>> book reader and a music player!
>>> AT $300 US you absolutley can't beat it.
>>> It doesn't feel as slick as a smart pone but it will take more pounding
>> for
>>> sure!
>>
>>> More over, it won't lock up and cause you to lose your place like the
>> other
>>> gagets.
>>
>>> So, Perhaps it's time you Europians took a second look cuzz you must be
>>> a
>>> little late in jumping on the Stream culture!
>>> LOL!
>>
>>> Rock on...rocker!
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Kenbu
>>> Sent: Friday, 20 September 2002 9:38 a.m.
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>>
>>> Hi Jonathan; A quiry here; I've just loaded some music onto a
>>> thumbdrive
>>> and am wondering if a small unit *to put in my pocket* coul be bought
>>> that
>>> would enable me to listen independent of my pc? Ken B
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmosen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:57 AM
>>> Subject: RE: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>>
>>
>>>> You do need to connect the Nano to iTunes to configure it, but once
>>>> those recordings are transferred to your nano, you don't need to be
>>>> connected to iTunes to have the speech.
>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Bobcat
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 1:40 a.m.
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>>
>>>> Listened to the podcast. Do I understand that it only talks when
>>> connected
>>>> to Itunes?
>>
>>>> Bob
>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >
>>>> >> From: Shane Jackson <jack728@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >> Date: 19 September 2008 4:04:24 PM
>>>> >> Hello, all. I am cross-posting this to several lists, as the
>>>> >> content of this podcast concerns all who are interested in this
>>>> >> unique little device. I take you on a tour and a demo of the new,
>>>> >> and I mean brand new, talking iPod Nano 4th generation. I also
>>>> >> demonstrate some features of Itunes with the Mac and the iPod.
>>>> >> Sorry, Windows users, I do not know how to use Itunes under your
>>>> >> operating system, so I trust someone will do a fine Windows podcast
>>>> >> very soon concerning this very subject. If you want the direct
>>>> >> file, it is http://www.shanejackson.net/Talking_iPod_Nano.mp3 and
>>>> >> the link for the podcast subscription is
>>>> >> http://feeds.feedburner.com/bwbp
>>
>>
>>
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