[talks-uk] Re: Talk about N82
- From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:21:48 +0100
From reading down the apended messages below Jonathan's, I found it came
from the PCAudio list -
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Stone" <alex.stone@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 3:10 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Talk about N82
| Walter, If you don't mind me asking, which list is this exchange from?
| Cheers
| Alex
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
| On Behalf Of Walter Ramage
| Sent: 20 September 2008 13:22
| To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| Subject: [talks-uk] Talk about N82
|
| Hi Folks. I thought you may find interesting the exchange of posts on
| another list I'm on. The guy refers to his use of the N82, sounds a hell
of
| a lot better than the N95 I have and wish I had got that with my last
| upgrade rather than the N95. Will consider it though in a years time when
| my next upgrade is due. Walter.
|
| Hi Orhan, different strokes etc for sure. But I use my N82 when I am
mobile,
| and I am often very mobile. One of the things we haven't covered during
this
| round of discussion on this subject, is that devices like the nano, the
| Stream and the Zenstone are not capable of downloading content directly
over
| the air to the device. So for example, Vodafone here in New Zealand have a
| subscription service with over a million tracks available for a weekly
fee.
| And they have an HSDPA network, which is faster than 3G. This means it is
| very easy to download tracks to a compatible device, and those tracks are
| available at no additional charge once you pay the subscription fee. It is
| pretty cool to have over a million tracks accessible to you from the
device
| you'd be carrying in your pocket anyway.
|
| Podcasts are another example. Sometimes I catch 12 hour flights, so I load
| my N82 up with podcasts. I've listened to them by the time I arrive, and I
| may have another flight ahead of me. So I can connect the phone to a
hotspot
| at the airport since the phone is equipped with WiFi, and download a bunch
| of new podcasts. And the N82 remembers your place in each of those
podcasts.
| Using a less capable device, I would have to use a PC to download podcasts
| and then sync, which is a hassle and more time consuming.
|
| Similarly with Audible books. On the N82, I have access to my entire
Audible
| library over the air, including newspaper subscriptions. So if I want
| another book, I can grab one without having to get to a PC.
|
| And I now have strategies in place that ensure I can get through a good
| 40-something hours of travel without running out of juice.
|
| Interestingly, this is the way Apple is going with the iPhone, which is,
to
| Apples credit, starting to establish that Smartphone culture in the US,
but
| of course is not accessible to us.
|
| Jonathan
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
| On Behalf Of orhan deniz
| Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 10:50 p.m.
| To: PC Audio Discussion List
| Subject: Re: MP3 Playback Options
|
| Hi Jonathan,
| I actually have to agree with you about smart phone culture. I mean, look
at
| the UK, which is where I live. The dominent phones are smart phones, more
| specifically Symbian phones and the Nokia set of phones. I don't
personally
| think that a phone will make an awesome MP3 player, but for people who
| mainly listen to music in front of the computer while doing daily tasks it
| is sufficient IMHO.
| Best regards,
| Orhan.
| --
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| On Saturday, 20 September 2008 5:58:39 AM, PC Audio Discussion List Wrote:
| > Keith, good for you that you have an N95. However, my comment regarding
| the
| > Smartphone culture still stands. if you look at the data, you'll see
that
| > the penetration of Symbian devices is lower in the US than most other
| > developed markets. That market data is fairly readily available. There
is
| > also plenty of survey data which indicates that the majority of US
| customers
| > feel that they only want their phone to make and receive calls, hence
the
| > popularity of the LG and cheaper Motorola phones. Another factor is that
| > many of the Nokia phones do not support the US 3G frequencies, which are
| > different from the rest of the world.
|
| > Getting back to the subject of audio, Code Factory's DAISY player does
| offer
| > extensive bookmarking features, as does an MP3 player I use designed
| > specifically for audio books. I seldom see the N82 lock up.
|
| > Battery life can certainly be a concern. Some of the newer Nokia phones
| such
| > as the N78 offer over 24 hours of playback time and include handy
features
| > such as an FM transmitter.
|
| > There are versions of the N95 where the battery life is a serious
problem
| > for sure. There are external battery packs or even second batteries that
| can
| > mitigate this, but some phones simply perform for much longer.
|
| > The bottom line is that different combinations of solutions, and indeed
| just
| > different solutions, work for different people, and sometimes it's just
a
| > matter of preference.
|
| > Jonathan
|
| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
| > On Behalf Of Keith Gillard
| > Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 12:38 p.m.
| > To: PC Audio Discussion List
| > Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
|
| > Once again Jonny your bias prompts me to respond. Which company aare
you
| > working for now?
|
| > So, you WROTE:
|
|
| > Hi Ken, my personal view is that you need to look at music in the
context
| of
| > what else you might like to do on the go. For example, if you use a cell
| > phone or might like to, then getting an accessible cell phone with a
good
| > music player, such as those from Nokia, might be the best option. The
| Victor
| > Reader Stream will play NLS books, which in North America is certainly a
| > factor, however other than this, I see no point in it at all. It is
| another
| > device to carry around. The Stream sells fairly well in North America,
| where
| > the smart phone culture is not well established. But on the Nokia N82 I
| > have, not only can I read print on the go with the KNFB Reader mobile,
but
| I
| > can also play DAISY books, work with MP3 files in a very accessible and
| > flexible way, listen to Audible content and download podcasts right from
| the
| > phone. So there is no need to carry another device around with me that
| > duplicates those functions.
|
| > If you don't want an accessible cell phone, then there are many portable
| > music playback options. The Stream is certainly worth considering and
that
| > will also read DAISY and regular texts. You might even look at an iPod
| > Shuffle which is very easy to operate and small. This will play music
and
| > Audible books, but not DAISY. There are many more, the Zenstone seems
| quite
| > popular. And let's not forget the iPod Nano, which talks now.
|
| > Jonathan
|
| > ***Well geeze Louise I only live in Norht America Where, acording to
| > Jahnathan, the smart phone culture is not well established.
|
| > Freaking lol man!
|
| > I guess my n95-3G is of no use to me then right?
|
| > Trust me folks,
| > Symbian offers so much to blind users but, any applications other then
| > talks, Moble Speak or the out ragiously priced KNFB reader, are not
| designed
|
| > with the blind user in mind. However, The Victor reader Stream is a
fully
|
| > featured packed unit that is blind friendly! !
| > And, at a price point that blows away any smart phone and Screen reader
| > combination. Investigate battery life for example. Or look at book
| marking
|
| > and navigation features! Once you do, you will know that the smart
phone
| > isn't there yet!
|
| > Like mr. Mossen, I have em all! Every last one of them! some of which
| you
| > likely don't even know of! And what player do I pull out of the night
| stand
|
|
|
| > No, it's not my smart phone! No, it's not my Pakcmate Omni! No, it's
not
|
| > my Maestro! No, its not my ZennStone! An no, it's not my beloved
Rockbox!
| > Which, I might ad, is a very close second choice as I have had all the
| > target players and, was involved in the beginning. Some may no me as
| > rocker! The inspiration behind the Voice UI!
|
| > Actually; the unit I'm pulling out every night to enjoy my digital
content
|
| > is indeed the Humanware Victor Stream!
|
| > It really does boast a wide array of features. Everthing you want from
a
| > book reader and a music player!
| > AT $300 US you absolutley can't beat it.
| > It doesn't feel as slick as a smart pone but it will take more pounding
| for
| > sure!
|
| > More over, it won't lock up and cause you to lose your place like the
| other
| > gagets.
|
| > So, Perhaps it's time you Europians took a second look cuzz you must be
a
| > little late in jumping on the Stream culture!
| > LOL!
|
| > Rock on...rocker!
|
|
| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
| > On Behalf Of Kenbu
| > Sent: Friday, 20 September 2002 9:38 a.m.
| > To: PC Audio Discussion List
| > Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
|
| > Hi Jonathan; A quiry here; I've just loaded some music onto a
thumbdrive
| > and am wondering if a small unit *to put in my pocket* coul be bought
that
| > would enable me to listen independent of my pc? Ken B
| > ----- Original Message -----
| > From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmosen@xxxxxxxxx>
| > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:57 AM
| > Subject: RE: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
|
|
| >> You do need to connect the Nano to iTunes to configure it, but once
| >> those recordings are transferred to your nano, you don't need to be
| >> connected to iTunes to have the speech.
|
| >> Jonathan
|
| >> -----Original Message-----
| >> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
| >> [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
| >> On Behalf Of Bobcat
| >> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 1:40 a.m.
| >> To: PC Audio Discussion List
| >> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
|
| >> Listened to the podcast. Do I understand that it only talks when
| > connected
| >> to Itunes?
|
| >> Bob
|
| >> ----- Original Message -----
| >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >> >
| >> >> From: Shane Jackson <jack728@xxxxxxxxx>
| >> >> Date: 19 September 2008 4:04:24 PM
| >> >> Hello, all. I am cross-posting this to several lists, as the
| >> >> content of this podcast concerns all who are interested in this
| >> >> unique little device. I take you on a tour and a demo of the new,
| >> >> and I mean brand new, talking iPod Nano 4th generation. I also
| >> >> demonstrate some features of Itunes with the Mac and the iPod.
| >> >> Sorry, Windows users, I do not know how to use Itunes under your
| >> >> operating system, so I trust someone will do a fine Windows podcast
| >> >> very soon concerning this very subject. If you want the direct
| >> >> file, it is http://www.shanejackson.net/Talking_iPod_Nano.mp3 and
| >> >> the link for the podcast subscription is
| >> >> http://feeds.feedburner.com/bwbp
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