[talks-uk] Re: Talk about N82
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:53:07 +0100
Hi Walter,
The N95 can also do all this stuff.
All the best
Steve
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On Behalf Of Walter Ramage
Sent: Saturday 20 September 2008 13:22
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Talk about N82
Hi Folks. I thought you may find interesting the exchange of posts on
another list I'm on. The guy refers to his use of the N82, sounds a hell of
a lot better than the N95 I have and wish I had got that with my last
upgrade rather than the N95. Will consider it though in a years time when
my next upgrade is due. Walter.
Hi Orhan, different strokes etc for sure. But I use my N82 when I am mobile,
and I am often very mobile. One of the things we haven't covered during this
round of discussion on this subject, is that devices like the nano, the
Stream and the Zenstone are not capable of downloading content directly over
the air to the device. So for example, Vodafone here in New Zealand have a
subscription service with over a million tracks available for a weekly fee.
And they have an HSDPA network, which is faster than 3G. This means it is
very easy to download tracks to a compatible device, and those tracks are
available at no additional charge once you pay the subscription fee. It is
pretty cool to have over a million tracks accessible to you from the device
you'd be carrying in your pocket anyway.
Podcasts are another example. Sometimes I catch 12 hour flights, so I load
my N82 up with podcasts. I've listened to them by the time I arrive, and I
may have another flight ahead of me. So I can connect the phone to a hotspot
at the airport since the phone is equipped with WiFi, and download a bunch
of new podcasts. And the N82 remembers your place in each of those podcasts.
Using a less capable device, I would have to use a PC to download podcasts
and then sync, which is a hassle and more time consuming.
Similarly with Audible books. On the N82, I have access to my entire Audible
library over the air, including newspaper subscriptions. So if I want
another book, I can grab one without having to get to a PC.
And I now have strategies in place that ensure I can get through a good
40-something hours of travel without running out of juice.
Interestingly, this is the way Apple is going with the iPhone, which is, to
Apples credit, starting to establish that Smartphone culture in the US, but
of course is not accessible to us.
Jonathan
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On Behalf Of orhan deniz
Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 10:50 p.m.
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: MP3 Playback Options
Hi Jonathan,
I actually have to agree with you about smart phone culture. I mean, look at
the UK, which is where I live. The dominent phones are smart phones, more
specifically Symbian phones and the Nokia set of phones. I don't personally
think that a phone will make an awesome MP3 player, but for people who
mainly listen to music in front of the computer while doing daily tasks it
is sufficient IMHO.
Best regards,
Orhan.
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On Saturday, 20 September 2008 5:58:39 AM, PC Audio Discussion List Wrote:
> Keith, good for you that you have an N95. However, my comment regarding
the
> Smartphone culture still stands. if you look at the data, you'll see that
> the penetration of Symbian devices is lower in the US than most other
> developed markets. That market data is fairly readily available. There is
> also plenty of survey data which indicates that the majority of US
customers
> feel that they only want their phone to make and receive calls, hence the
> popularity of the LG and cheaper Motorola phones. Another factor is that
> many of the Nokia phones do not support the US 3G frequencies, which are
> different from the rest of the world.
> Getting back to the subject of audio, Code Factory's DAISY player does
offer
> extensive bookmarking features, as does an MP3 player I use designed
> specifically for audio books. I seldom see the N82 lock up.
> Battery life can certainly be a concern. Some of the newer Nokia phones
such
> as the N78 offer over 24 hours of playback time and include handy features
> such as an FM transmitter.
> There are versions of the N95 where the battery life is a serious problem
> for sure. There are external battery packs or even second batteries that
can
> mitigate this, but some phones simply perform for much longer.
> The bottom line is that different combinations of solutions, and indeed
just
> different solutions, work for different people, and sometimes it's just a
> matter of preference.
> Jonathan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Keith Gillard
> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 12:38 p.m.
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
> Once again Jonny your bias prompts me to respond. Which company aare you
> working for now?
> So, you WROTE:
> Hi Ken, my personal view is that you need to look at music in the context
of
> what else you might like to do on the go. For example, if you use a cell
> phone or might like to, then getting an accessible cell phone with a good
> music player, such as those from Nokia, might be the best option. The
Victor
> Reader Stream will play NLS books, which in North America is certainly a
> factor, however other than this, I see no point in it at all. It is
another
> device to carry around. The Stream sells fairly well in North America,
where
> the smart phone culture is not well established. But on the Nokia N82 I
> have, not only can I read print on the go with the KNFB Reader mobile, but
I
> can also play DAISY books, work with MP3 files in a very accessible and
> flexible way, listen to Audible content and download podcasts right from
the
> phone. So there is no need to carry another device around with me that
> duplicates those functions.
> If you don't want an accessible cell phone, then there are many portable
> music playback options. The Stream is certainly worth considering and that
> will also read DAISY and regular texts. You might even look at an iPod
> Shuffle which is very easy to operate and small. This will play music and
> Audible books, but not DAISY. There are many more, the Zenstone seems
quite
> popular. And let's not forget the iPod Nano, which talks now.
> Jonathan
> ***Well geeze Louise I only live in Norht America Where, acording to
> Jahnathan, the smart phone culture is not well established.
> Freaking lol man!
> I guess my n95-3G is of no use to me then right?
> Trust me folks,
> Symbian offers so much to blind users but, any applications other then
> talks, Moble Speak or the out ragiously priced KNFB reader, are not
designed
> with the blind user in mind. However, The Victor reader Stream is a fully
> featured packed unit that is blind friendly! !
> And, at a price point that blows away any smart phone and Screen reader
> combination. Investigate battery life for example. Or look at book
marking
> and navigation features! Once you do, you will know that the smart phone
> isn't there yet!
> Like mr. Mossen, I have em all! Every last one of them! some of which
you
> likely don't even know of! And what player do I pull out of the night
stand
> No, it's not my smart phone! No, it's not my Pakcmate Omni! No, it's not
> my Maestro! No, its not my ZennStone! An no, it's not my beloved Rockbox!
> Which, I might ad, is a very close second choice as I have had all the
> target players and, was involved in the beginning. Some may no me as
> rocker! The inspiration behind the Voice UI!
> Actually; the unit I'm pulling out every night to enjoy my digital content
> is indeed the Humanware Victor Stream!
> It really does boast a wide array of features. Everthing you want from a
> book reader and a music player!
> AT $300 US you absolutley can't beat it.
> It doesn't feel as slick as a smart pone but it will take more pounding
for
> sure!
> More over, it won't lock up and cause you to lose your place like the
other
> gagets.
> So, Perhaps it's time you Europians took a second look cuzz you must be a
> little late in jumping on the Stream culture!
> LOL!
> Rock on...rocker!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Kenbu
> Sent: Friday, 20 September 2002 9:38 a.m.
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
> Hi Jonathan; A quiry here; I've just loaded some music onto a thumbdrive
> and am wondering if a small unit *to put in my pocket* coul be bought that
> would enable me to listen independent of my pc? Ken B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmosen@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:57 AM
> Subject: RE: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>> You do need to connect the Nano to iTunes to configure it, but once
>> those recordings are transferred to your nano, you don't need to be
>> connected to iTunes to have the speech.
>> Jonathan
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Bobcat
>> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 1:40 a.m.
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>> Listened to the podcast. Do I understand that it only talks when
> connected
>> to Itunes?
>> Bob
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> >> From: Shane Jackson <jack728@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> Date: 19 September 2008 4:04:24 PM
>> >> Hello, all. I am cross-posting this to several lists, as the
>> >> content of this podcast concerns all who are interested in this
>> >> unique little device. I take you on a tour and a demo of the new,
>> >> and I mean brand new, talking iPod Nano 4th generation. I also
>> >> demonstrate some features of Itunes with the Mac and the iPod.
>> >> Sorry, Windows users, I do not know how to use Itunes under your
>> >> operating system, so I trust someone will do a fine Windows podcast
>> >> very soon concerning this very subject. If you want the direct
>> >> file, it is http://www.shanejackson.net/Talking_iPod_Nano.mp3 and
>> >> the link for the podcast subscription is
>> >> http://feeds.feedburner.com/bwbp
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