[talks-uk] Re: Talk about N82
- From: "Alex Stone" <alex.stone@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:00:19 +0100
I used to find that it would slide open all the time in a trouser pocket,
which was the only option I had when not wearing a jacket.
Cheers
Alex
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Carol Pearson
Sent: 20 September 2008 18:39
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Talk about N82
Well, I've never had the N95 slide open in my pocket or bag. <Smiles>
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Carol
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On Saturday, September 20, 2008 6:09 PM (UK time), Alex Stone at
alex.stone@xxxxxxxxx said:
> Steve Nutt, I completely agree with you about the n95 sliding open in
> your pocket, I completely disagree with Steve Dryden about the n82
> feeling cheap, it's by far the best phone I've ever had!
> Cheers
> Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
> Sent: 20 September 2008 17:56
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Talk about N82
>
> Hey Steve,
>
> I have an N95 8 and an N82, and the N82 easily outdoes it on battery
> life as well. I don't like the fact that the N95-8 slides open in
> your pocket, but hey, that's just my opinion too.
>
> By the way, the N96 is already out I believe, but it won't be with
> operators for a while yet. Another reason to buy Sim-Free.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Dryden
> Sent: Saturday 20 September 2008 17:50
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Talk about N82
>
> Hmmmm, thing is Walter, the N95 will do everything he talks about his
> N82 doing. OK, I know there was a bit of a problem with the older
> N95 and the battery life but the 8 gig version of the N95 doesn't
> seem to have those issues. I have the N95 8 gig and yes, I can put
> on the audible reader, I can do the podcast downloads from my home
> network or even do the hotspot thing as well. I was on my way to a
> meeting the other week and decided to log into the trains wi fi
> network and check out some websites. I listened to some music
> extensively and made several calls and still had battery life when I
> got home 10 hours later. Yes, the N82 does have a slightly faster
> internal processor and some may argue that it's got a better GPS
> receiver built in but I'd always go for the N95 anyday. I just think
> the N82 is ugly
>
> and cheap looking. It has a flimsy build and feels like cheap
> plastic. But, hey, smiles. that's only my view. Other people will
> have other ideas I'm sure. You'll find it difficult to get one on
> upgrade next year as they've already stopped being supplied by
> providers. Soon, the N96 will be out and that's a completely
> different beast entirely! hahahaha. Might even flog my N95 8 gig for
> one of those! smiles.
>
> Steve
>
> PS, please everyone, do not start flaming me for not likeing the N82,
> it's just my opinion ok!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Walter Ramage" <wpr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 1:22 PM
> Subject: [talks-uk] Talk about N82
>
>
>> Hi Folks. I thought you may find interesting the exchange of posts
>> on another list I'm on. The guy refers to his use of the N82,
>> sounds a hell of
>> a lot better than the N95 I have and wish I had got that with my last
>> upgrade rather than the N95. Will consider it though in a years
>> time when my next upgrade is due. Walter.
>>
>> Hi Orhan, different strokes etc for sure. But I use my N82 when I am
>> mobile,
>> and I am often very mobile. One of the things we haven't covered
>> during this
>> round of discussion on this subject, is that devices like the nano,
>> the Stream and the Zenstone are not capable of downloading content
>> directly over
>> the air to the device. So for example, Vodafone here in New Zealand
>> have a subscription service with over a million tracks available for
>> a weekly fee.
>> And they have an HSDPA network, which is faster than 3G. This means
>> it is very easy to download tracks to a compatible device, and those
>> tracks are available at no additional charge once you pay the
>> subscription fee. It is pretty cool to have over a million tracks
>> accessible to you from the device
>> you'd be carrying in your pocket anyway.
>>
>> Podcasts are another example. Sometimes I catch 12 hour flights, so
>> I load my N82 up with podcasts. I've listened to them by the time I
>> arrive, and I may have another flight ahead of me. So I can connect
>> the phone to a hotspot
>> at the airport since the phone is equipped with WiFi, and download a
>> bunch of new podcasts. And the N82 remembers your place in each of
>> those podcasts.
>> Using a less capable device, I would have to use a PC to download
>> podcasts and then sync, which is a hassle and more time consuming.
>>
>> Similarly with Audible books. On the N82, I have access to my entire
>> Audible
>> library over the air, including newspaper subscriptions. So if I want
>> another book, I can grab one without having to get to a PC.
>>
>> And I now have strategies in place that ensure I can get through a
>> good 40-something hours of travel without running out of juice.
>>
>> Interestingly, this is the way Apple is going with the iPhone, which
>> is, to
>> Apples credit, starting to establish that Smartphone culture in the
>> US, but
>> of course is not accessible to us.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of orhan deniz
>> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 10:50 p.m.
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: MP3 Playback Options
>>
>> Hi Jonathan,
>> I actually have to agree with you about smart phone culture. I mean,
>> look at
>> the UK, which is where I live. The dominent phones are smart phones,
>> more specifically Symbian phones and the Nokia set of phones. I don't
>> personally
>> think that a phone will make an awesome MP3 player, but for people
>> who mainly listen to music in front of the computer while doing
>> daily tasks it is sufficient IMHO.
>> Best regards,
>> Orhan.
>> --
>> Orhan Deniz.
>> E-mail:
>> orhan.deniz63@xxxxxxxxx
>> MSN/Windows Live ID:
>> orhan1793@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Skype:
>> orhan.deniz63
>> Blog:
>> http://worldandother.wordpress.com
>> Twitter:
>> http://www.twitter.com/kvp2008
>> Last.fm! Profile:
>> http://last.fm/user/orhandeniz1993
>> On Saturday, 20 September 2008 5:58:39 AM, PC Audio Discussion List
>> Wrote:
>>> Keith, good for you that you have an N95. However, my comment
>>> regarding the Smartphone culture still stands. if you look at the
>>> data, you'll see that the penetration of Symbian devices is lower
>>> in the US than most other developed markets. That market data is
>>> fairly readily available. There is also plenty of survey data which
>>> indicates that the majority of US customers feel that they only
>>> want their phone to make and receive calls, hence the popularity of
>>> the LG and cheaper Motorola phones. Another factor is that many of
>>> the Nokia phones do not support the US 3G frequencies, which are
>>> different from the rest of the world.
>>
>>> Getting back to the subject of audio, Code Factory's DAISY player
>>> does offer extensive bookmarking features, as does an MP3 player I
>>> use designed specifically for audio books. I seldom see the N82
>>> lock up.
>>
>>> Battery life can certainly be a concern. Some of the newer Nokia
>>> phones such as the N78 offer over 24 hours of playback time and
>>> include handy features
>>> such as an FM transmitter.
>>
>>> There are versions of the N95 where the battery life is a serious
>>> problem for sure. There are external battery packs or even second
>>> batteries that can mitigate this, but some phones simply perform
>>> for much longer.
>>
>>> The bottom line is that different combinations of solutions, and
>>> indeed just different solutions, work for different people, and
>>> sometimes it's just a matter of preference.
>>
>>> Jonathan
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Keith Gillard
>>> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 12:38 p.m.
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>>
>>> Once again Jonny your bias prompts me to respond. Which company
>>> aare you working for now?
>>
>>> So, you WROTE:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Ken, my personal view is that you need to look at music in the
>>> context of what else you might like to do on the go. For example,
>>> if you use a cell phone or might like to, then getting an
>>> accessible cell phone with a good music player, such as those from
>>> Nokia, might be the best option. The Victor Reader Stream will play
>>> NLS books, which in North America is certainly a factor, however
>>> other than this, I see no point in it at all. It is another device
>>> to carry around. The Stream sells fairly well in North America,
>>> where the smart phone culture is not well established. But on the
>>> Nokia N82 I have, not only can I read print on the go with the KNFB
>>> Reader mobile, but
>> I
>>> can also play DAISY books, work with MP3 files in a very accessible
>>> and flexible way, listen to Audible content and download podcasts
>>> right from the phone. So there is no need to carry another device
>>> around with me that duplicates those functions.
>>
>>> If you don't want an accessible cell phone, then there are many
>>> portable music playback options. The Stream is certainly worth
>>> considering and that
>>> will also read DAISY and regular texts. You might even look at an
>>> iPod Shuffle which is very easy to operate and small. This will
>>> play music and Audible books, but not DAISY. There are many more,
>>> the Zenstone seems quite popular. And let's not forget the iPod
>>> Nano, which talks now.
>>
>>> Jonathan
>>
>>> ***Well geeze Louise I only live in Norht America Where, acording to
>>> Jahnathan, the smart phone culture is not well established.
>>
>>> Freaking lol man!
>>
>>> I guess my n95-3G is of no use to me then right?
>>
>>> Trust me folks,
>>> Symbian offers so much to blind users but, any applications other
>>> then talks, Moble Speak or the out ragiously priced KNFB reader,
>>> are not designed
>>
>>> with the blind user in mind. However, The Victor reader Stream is a
>>> fully
>>
>>> featured packed unit that is blind friendly! !
>>> And, at a price point that blows away any smart phone and Screen
>>> reader combination. Investigate battery life for example. Or look
>>> at book marking
>>
>>> and navigation features! Once you do, you will know that the smart
>>> phone isn't there yet!
>>
>>> Like mr. Mossen, I have em all! Every last one of them! some of
>>> which you likely don't even know of! And what player do I pull out
>>> of the night stand
>>
>>
>>
>>> No, it's not my smart phone! No, it's not my Pakcmate Omni! No,
>>> it's not
>>
>>> my Maestro! No, its not my ZennStone! An no, it's not my beloved
>>> Rockbox!
>>> Which, I might ad, is a very close second choice as I have had all
>>> the target players and, was involved in the beginning. Some may no
>>> me as rocker! The inspiration behind the Voice UI!
>>
>>> Actually; the unit I'm pulling out every night to enjoy my digital
>>> content
>>
>>> is indeed the Humanware Victor Stream!
>>
>>> It really does boast a wide array of features. Everthing you want
>>> from a book reader and a music player!
>>> AT $300 US you absolutley can't beat it.
>>> It doesn't feel as slick as a smart pone but it will take more
>>> pounding for sure!
>>
>>> More over, it won't lock up and cause you to lose your place like
>>> the other gagets.
>>
>>> So, Perhaps it's time you Europians took a second look cuzz you
>>> must be a little late in jumping on the Stream culture!
>>> LOL!
>>
>>> Rock on...rocker!
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Kenbu
>>> Sent: Friday, 20 September 2002 9:38 a.m.
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>>
>>> Hi Jonathan; A quiry here; I've just loaded some music onto a
>>> thumbdrive and am wondering if a small unit *to put in my pocket*
>>> coul be bought that
>>> would enable me to listen independent of my pc? Ken B
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmosen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:57 AM
>>> Subject: RE: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>>
>>
>>>> You do need to connect the Nano to iTunes to configure it, but once
>>>> those recordings are transferred to your nano, you don't need to be
>>>> connected to iTunes to have the speech.
>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Bobcat
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 1:40 a.m.
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>>
>>>> Listened to the podcast. Do I understand that it only talks when
>>>> connected to Itunes?
>>
>>>> Bob
>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Shane Jackson <jack728@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Date: 19 September 2008 4:04:24 PM
>>>>>> Hello, all. I am cross-posting this to several lists, as the
>>>>>> content of this podcast concerns all who are interested in this
>>>>>> unique little device. I take you on a tour and a demo of the
>>>>>> new, and I mean brand new, talking iPod Nano 4th generation. I
>>>>>> also demonstrate some features of Itunes with the Mac and the
>>>>>> iPod. Sorry, Windows users, I do not know how to use Itunes
>>>>>> under your operating system, so I trust someone will do a fine
>>>>>> Windows podcast very soon concerning this very subject. If you
>>>>>> want the direct file, it is
>>>>>> http://www.shanejackson.net/Talking_iPod_Nano.mp3 and the link
>>>>>> for the podcast subscription is http://feeds.feedburner.com/bwbp
>>
>>
>>
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