[talks-uk] Re: Talk about N82
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:51:16 +0100
Hi Saqib,
We can still get them too. One reason I always buy sim-free. You can never
rely on phone operators.
All the best
Steve
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From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Saqib
Sent: Saturday 20 September 2008 15:05
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Talk about N82
Hi. The trouble is here is that the N82 has been discontinued. by network
providers. You may still be able to get one from a store such as O2 but the
Carphonewarehouse no longer have them. Nokia online store still have them
for £295.
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From: "Walter Ramage" <wpr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 1:22 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Talk about N82
> Hi Folks. I thought you may find interesting the exchange of posts on
> another list I'm on. The guy refers to his use of the N82, sounds a hell
> of
> a lot better than the N95 I have and wish I had got that with my last
> upgrade rather than the N95. Will consider it though in a years time when
> my next upgrade is due. Walter.
>
> Hi Orhan, different strokes etc for sure. But I use my N82 when I am
> mobile,
> and I am often very mobile. One of the things we haven't covered during
> this
> round of discussion on this subject, is that devices like the nano, the
> Stream and the Zenstone are not capable of downloading content directly
> over
> the air to the device. So for example, Vodafone here in New Zealand have a
> subscription service with over a million tracks available for a weekly
> fee.
> And they have an HSDPA network, which is faster than 3G. This means it is
> very easy to download tracks to a compatible device, and those tracks are
> available at no additional charge once you pay the subscription fee. It is
> pretty cool to have over a million tracks accessible to you from the
> device
> you'd be carrying in your pocket anyway.
>
> Podcasts are another example. Sometimes I catch 12 hour flights, so I load
> my N82 up with podcasts. I've listened to them by the time I arrive, and I
> may have another flight ahead of me. So I can connect the phone to a
> hotspot
> at the airport since the phone is equipped with WiFi, and download a bunch
> of new podcasts. And the N82 remembers your place in each of those
> podcasts.
> Using a less capable device, I would have to use a PC to download podcasts
> and then sync, which is a hassle and more time consuming.
>
> Similarly with Audible books. On the N82, I have access to my entire
> Audible
> library over the air, including newspaper subscriptions. So if I want
> another book, I can grab one without having to get to a PC.
>
> And I now have strategies in place that ensure I can get through a good
> 40-something hours of travel without running out of juice.
>
> Interestingly, this is the way Apple is going with the iPhone, which is,
> to
> Apples credit, starting to establish that Smartphone culture in the US,
> but
> of course is not accessible to us.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of orhan deniz
> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 10:50 p.m.
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: MP3 Playback Options
>
> Hi Jonathan,
> I actually have to agree with you about smart phone culture. I mean, look
> at
> the UK, which is where I live. The dominent phones are smart phones, more
> specifically Symbian phones and the Nokia set of phones. I don't
> personally
> think that a phone will make an awesome MP3 player, but for people who
> mainly listen to music in front of the computer while doing daily tasks it
> is sufficient IMHO.
> Best regards,
> Orhan.
> --
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> E-mail:
> orhan.deniz63@xxxxxxxxx
> MSN/Windows Live ID:
> orhan1793@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Skype:
> orhan.deniz63
> Blog:
> http://worldandother.wordpress.com
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> http://www.twitter.com/kvp2008
> Last.fm! Profile:
> http://last.fm/user/orhandeniz1993
> On Saturday, 20 September 2008 5:58:39 AM, PC Audio Discussion List Wrote:
>> Keith, good for you that you have an N95. However, my comment regarding
> the
>> Smartphone culture still stands. if you look at the data, you'll see that
>> the penetration of Symbian devices is lower in the US than most other
>> developed markets. That market data is fairly readily available. There is
>> also plenty of survey data which indicates that the majority of US
> customers
>> feel that they only want their phone to make and receive calls, hence the
>> popularity of the LG and cheaper Motorola phones. Another factor is that
>> many of the Nokia phones do not support the US 3G frequencies, which are
>> different from the rest of the world.
>
>> Getting back to the subject of audio, Code Factory's DAISY player does
> offer
>> extensive bookmarking features, as does an MP3 player I use designed
>> specifically for audio books. I seldom see the N82 lock up.
>
>> Battery life can certainly be a concern. Some of the newer Nokia phones
> such
>> as the N78 offer over 24 hours of playback time and include handy
>> features
>> such as an FM transmitter.
>
>> There are versions of the N95 where the battery life is a serious problem
>> for sure. There are external battery packs or even second batteries that
> can
>> mitigate this, but some phones simply perform for much longer.
>
>> The bottom line is that different combinations of solutions, and indeed
> just
>> different solutions, work for different people, and sometimes it's just a
>> matter of preference.
>
>> Jonathan
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Keith Gillard
>> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 12:38 p.m.
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>
>> Once again Jonny your bias prompts me to respond. Which company aare you
>> working for now?
>
>> So, you WROTE:
>
>
>> Hi Ken, my personal view is that you need to look at music in the context
> of
>> what else you might like to do on the go. For example, if you use a cell
>> phone or might like to, then getting an accessible cell phone with a good
>> music player, such as those from Nokia, might be the best option. The
> Victor
>> Reader Stream will play NLS books, which in North America is certainly a
>> factor, however other than this, I see no point in it at all. It is
> another
>> device to carry around. The Stream sells fairly well in North America,
> where
>> the smart phone culture is not well established. But on the Nokia N82 I
>> have, not only can I read print on the go with the KNFB Reader mobile,
>> but
> I
>> can also play DAISY books, work with MP3 files in a very accessible and
>> flexible way, listen to Audible content and download podcasts right from
> the
>> phone. So there is no need to carry another device around with me that
>> duplicates those functions.
>
>> If you don't want an accessible cell phone, then there are many portable
>> music playback options. The Stream is certainly worth considering and
>> that
>> will also read DAISY and regular texts. You might even look at an iPod
>> Shuffle which is very easy to operate and small. This will play music and
>> Audible books, but not DAISY. There are many more, the Zenstone seems
> quite
>> popular. And let's not forget the iPod Nano, which talks now.
>
>> Jonathan
>
>> ***Well geeze Louise I only live in Norht America Where, acording to
>> Jahnathan, the smart phone culture is not well established.
>
>> Freaking lol man!
>
>> I guess my n95-3G is of no use to me then right?
>
>> Trust me folks,
>> Symbian offers so much to blind users but, any applications other then
>> talks, Moble Speak or the out ragiously priced KNFB reader, are not
> designed
>
>> with the blind user in mind. However, The Victor reader Stream is a
>> fully
>
>> featured packed unit that is blind friendly! !
>> And, at a price point that blows away any smart phone and Screen reader
>> combination. Investigate battery life for example. Or look at book
> marking
>
>> and navigation features! Once you do, you will know that the smart phone
>> isn't there yet!
>
>> Like mr. Mossen, I have em all! Every last one of them! some of which
> you
>> likely don't even know of! And what player do I pull out of the night
> stand
>
>
>
>> No, it's not my smart phone! No, it's not my Pakcmate Omni! No, it's
>> not
>
>> my Maestro! No, its not my ZennStone! An no, it's not my beloved
>> Rockbox!
>> Which, I might ad, is a very close second choice as I have had all the
>> target players and, was involved in the beginning. Some may no me as
>> rocker! The inspiration behind the Voice UI!
>
>> Actually; the unit I'm pulling out every night to enjoy my digital
>> content
>
>> is indeed the Humanware Victor Stream!
>
>> It really does boast a wide array of features. Everthing you want from a
>> book reader and a music player!
>> AT $300 US you absolutley can't beat it.
>> It doesn't feel as slick as a smart pone but it will take more pounding
> for
>> sure!
>
>> More over, it won't lock up and cause you to lose your place like the
> other
>> gagets.
>
>> So, Perhaps it's time you Europians took a second look cuzz you must be a
>> little late in jumping on the Stream culture!
>> LOL!
>
>> Rock on...rocker!
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Kenbu
>> Sent: Friday, 20 September 2002 9:38 a.m.
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>
>> Hi Jonathan; A quiry here; I've just loaded some music onto a thumbdrive
>> and am wondering if a small unit *to put in my pocket* coul be bought
>> that
>> would enable me to listen independent of my pc? Ken B
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmosen@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:57 AM
>> Subject: RE: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>
>
>>> You do need to connect the Nano to iTunes to configure it, but once
>>> those recordings are transferred to your nano, you don't need to be
>>> connected to iTunes to have the speech.
>
>>> Jonathan
>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Bobcat
>>> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 1:40 a.m.
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>
>>> Listened to the podcast. Do I understand that it only talks when
>> connected
>>> to Itunes?
>
>>> Bob
>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >
>>> >> From: Shane Jackson <jack728@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> Date: 19 September 2008 4:04:24 PM
>>> >> Hello, all. I am cross-posting this to several lists, as the
>>> >> content of this podcast concerns all who are interested in this
>>> >> unique little device. I take you on a tour and a demo of the new,
>>> >> and I mean brand new, talking iPod Nano 4th generation. I also
>>> >> demonstrate some features of Itunes with the Mac and the iPod.
>>> >> Sorry, Windows users, I do not know how to use Itunes under your
>>> >> operating system, so I trust someone will do a fine Windows podcast
>>> >> very soon concerning this very subject. If you want the direct
>>> >> file, it is http://www.shanejackson.net/Talking_iPod_Nano.mp3 and
>>> >> the link for the podcast subscription is
>>> >> http://feeds.feedburner.com/bwbp
>
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