[talks-uk] Re: Talk about N82
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:55:46 +0100
Hey Steve,
I have an N95 8 and an N82, and the N82 easily outdoes it on battery life as
well. I don't like the fact that the N95-8 slides open in your pocket, but
hey, that's just my opinion too.
By the way, the N96 is already out I believe, but it won't be with operators
for a while yet. Another reason to buy Sim-Free.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Steve Dryden
Sent: Saturday 20 September 2008 17:50
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Talk about N82
Hmmmm, thing is Walter, the N95 will do everything he talks about his N82
doing. OK, I know there was a bit of a problem with the older N95 and the
battery life but the 8 gig version of the N95 doesn't seem to have those
issues. I have the N95 8 gig and yes, I can put on the audible reader, I
can do the podcast downloads from my home network or even do the hotspot
thing as well. I was on my way to a meeting the other week and decided to
log into the trains wi fi network and check out some websites. I listened
to some music extensively and made several calls and still had battery life
when I got home 10 hours later. Yes, the N82 does have a slightly faster
internal processor and some may argue that it's got a better GPS receiver
built in but I'd always go for the N95 anyday. I just think the N82 is ugly
and cheap looking. It has a flimsy build and feels like cheap plastic.
But, hey, smiles. that's only my view. Other people will have other ideas
I'm sure. You'll find it difficult to get one on upgrade next year as
they've already stopped being supplied by providers. Soon, the N96 will be
out and that's a completely different beast entirely! hahahaha. Might even
flog my N95 8 gig for one of those! smiles.
Steve
PS, please everyone, do not start flaming me for not likeing the N82, it's
just my opinion ok!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Ramage" <wpr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 1:22 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Talk about N82
> Hi Folks. I thought you may find interesting the exchange of posts on
> another list I'm on. The guy refers to his use of the N82, sounds a hell
> of
> a lot better than the N95 I have and wish I had got that with my last
> upgrade rather than the N95. Will consider it though in a years time when
> my next upgrade is due. Walter.
>
> Hi Orhan, different strokes etc for sure. But I use my N82 when I am
> mobile,
> and I am often very mobile. One of the things we haven't covered during
> this
> round of discussion on this subject, is that devices like the nano, the
> Stream and the Zenstone are not capable of downloading content directly
> over
> the air to the device. So for example, Vodafone here in New Zealand have a
> subscription service with over a million tracks available for a weekly
> fee.
> And they have an HSDPA network, which is faster than 3G. This means it is
> very easy to download tracks to a compatible device, and those tracks are
> available at no additional charge once you pay the subscription fee. It is
> pretty cool to have over a million tracks accessible to you from the
> device
> you'd be carrying in your pocket anyway.
>
> Podcasts are another example. Sometimes I catch 12 hour flights, so I load
> my N82 up with podcasts. I've listened to them by the time I arrive, and I
> may have another flight ahead of me. So I can connect the phone to a
> hotspot
> at the airport since the phone is equipped with WiFi, and download a bunch
> of new podcasts. And the N82 remembers your place in each of those
> podcasts.
> Using a less capable device, I would have to use a PC to download podcasts
> and then sync, which is a hassle and more time consuming.
>
> Similarly with Audible books. On the N82, I have access to my entire
> Audible
> library over the air, including newspaper subscriptions. So if I want
> another book, I can grab one without having to get to a PC.
>
> And I now have strategies in place that ensure I can get through a good
> 40-something hours of travel without running out of juice.
>
> Interestingly, this is the way Apple is going with the iPhone, which is,
> to
> Apples credit, starting to establish that Smartphone culture in the US,
> but
> of course is not accessible to us.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of orhan deniz
> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 10:50 p.m.
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: MP3 Playback Options
>
> Hi Jonathan,
> I actually have to agree with you about smart phone culture. I mean, look
> at
> the UK, which is where I live. The dominent phones are smart phones, more
> specifically Symbian phones and the Nokia set of phones. I don't
> personally
> think that a phone will make an awesome MP3 player, but for people who
> mainly listen to music in front of the computer while doing daily tasks it
> is sufficient IMHO.
> Best regards,
> Orhan.
> --
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> E-mail:
> orhan.deniz63@xxxxxxxxx
> MSN/Windows Live ID:
> orhan1793@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> orhan.deniz63
> Blog:
> http://worldandother.wordpress.com
> Twitter:
> http://www.twitter.com/kvp2008
> Last.fm! Profile:
> http://last.fm/user/orhandeniz1993
> On Saturday, 20 September 2008 5:58:39 AM, PC Audio Discussion List Wrote:
>> Keith, good for you that you have an N95. However, my comment regarding
> the
>> Smartphone culture still stands. if you look at the data, you'll see that
>> the penetration of Symbian devices is lower in the US than most other
>> developed markets. That market data is fairly readily available. There is
>> also plenty of survey data which indicates that the majority of US
> customers
>> feel that they only want their phone to make and receive calls, hence the
>> popularity of the LG and cheaper Motorola phones. Another factor is that
>> many of the Nokia phones do not support the US 3G frequencies, which are
>> different from the rest of the world.
>
>> Getting back to the subject of audio, Code Factory's DAISY player does
> offer
>> extensive bookmarking features, as does an MP3 player I use designed
>> specifically for audio books. I seldom see the N82 lock up.
>
>> Battery life can certainly be a concern. Some of the newer Nokia phones
> such
>> as the N78 offer over 24 hours of playback time and include handy
>> features
>> such as an FM transmitter.
>
>> There are versions of the N95 where the battery life is a serious problem
>> for sure. There are external battery packs or even second batteries that
> can
>> mitigate this, but some phones simply perform for much longer.
>
>> The bottom line is that different combinations of solutions, and indeed
> just
>> different solutions, work for different people, and sometimes it's just a
>> matter of preference.
>
>> Jonathan
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Keith Gillard
>> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 12:38 p.m.
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>
>> Once again Jonny your bias prompts me to respond. Which company aare you
>> working for now?
>
>> So, you WROTE:
>
>
>> Hi Ken, my personal view is that you need to look at music in the context
> of
>> what else you might like to do on the go. For example, if you use a cell
>> phone or might like to, then getting an accessible cell phone with a good
>> music player, such as those from Nokia, might be the best option. The
> Victor
>> Reader Stream will play NLS books, which in North America is certainly a
>> factor, however other than this, I see no point in it at all. It is
> another
>> device to carry around. The Stream sells fairly well in North America,
> where
>> the smart phone culture is not well established. But on the Nokia N82 I
>> have, not only can I read print on the go with the KNFB Reader mobile,
>> but
> I
>> can also play DAISY books, work with MP3 files in a very accessible and
>> flexible way, listen to Audible content and download podcasts right from
> the
>> phone. So there is no need to carry another device around with me that
>> duplicates those functions.
>
>> If you don't want an accessible cell phone, then there are many portable
>> music playback options. The Stream is certainly worth considering and
>> that
>> will also read DAISY and regular texts. You might even look at an iPod
>> Shuffle which is very easy to operate and small. This will play music and
>> Audible books, but not DAISY. There are many more, the Zenstone seems
> quite
>> popular. And let's not forget the iPod Nano, which talks now.
>
>> Jonathan
>
>> ***Well geeze Louise I only live in Norht America Where, acording to
>> Jahnathan, the smart phone culture is not well established.
>
>> Freaking lol man!
>
>> I guess my n95-3G is of no use to me then right?
>
>> Trust me folks,
>> Symbian offers so much to blind users but, any applications other then
>> talks, Moble Speak or the out ragiously priced KNFB reader, are not
> designed
>
>> with the blind user in mind. However, The Victor reader Stream is a
>> fully
>
>> featured packed unit that is blind friendly! !
>> And, at a price point that blows away any smart phone and Screen reader
>> combination. Investigate battery life for example. Or look at book
> marking
>
>> and navigation features! Once you do, you will know that the smart phone
>> isn't there yet!
>
>> Like mr. Mossen, I have em all! Every last one of them! some of which
> you
>> likely don't even know of! And what player do I pull out of the night
> stand
>
>
>
>> No, it's not my smart phone! No, it's not my Pakcmate Omni! No, it's
>> not
>
>> my Maestro! No, its not my ZennStone! An no, it's not my beloved
>> Rockbox!
>> Which, I might ad, is a very close second choice as I have had all the
>> target players and, was involved in the beginning. Some may no me as
>> rocker! The inspiration behind the Voice UI!
>
>> Actually; the unit I'm pulling out every night to enjoy my digital
>> content
>
>> is indeed the Humanware Victor Stream!
>
>> It really does boast a wide array of features. Everthing you want from a
>> book reader and a music player!
>> AT $300 US you absolutley can't beat it.
>> It doesn't feel as slick as a smart pone but it will take more pounding
> for
>> sure!
>
>> More over, it won't lock up and cause you to lose your place like the
> other
>> gagets.
>
>> So, Perhaps it's time you Europians took a second look cuzz you must be a
>> little late in jumping on the Stream culture!
>> LOL!
>
>> Rock on...rocker!
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Kenbu
>> Sent: Friday, 20 September 2002 9:38 a.m.
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>
>> Hi Jonathan; A quiry here; I've just loaded some music onto a thumbdrive
>> and am wondering if a small unit *to put in my pocket* coul be bought
>> that
>> would enable me to listen independent of my pc? Ken B
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmosen@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:57 AM
>> Subject: RE: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>
>
>>> You do need to connect the Nano to iTunes to configure it, but once
>>> those recordings are transferred to your nano, you don't need to be
>>> connected to iTunes to have the speech.
>
>>> Jonathan
>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:pc-audio-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Bobcat
>>> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 1:40 a.m.
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>
>>> Listened to the podcast. Do I understand that it only talks when
>> connected
>>> to Itunes?
>
>>> Bob
>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >
>>> >> From: Shane Jackson <jack728@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> Date: 19 September 2008 4:04:24 PM
>>> >> Hello, all. I am cross-posting this to several lists, as the
>>> >> content of this podcast concerns all who are interested in this
>>> >> unique little device. I take you on a tour and a demo of the new,
>>> >> and I mean brand new, talking iPod Nano 4th generation. I also
>>> >> demonstrate some features of Itunes with the Mac and the iPod.
>>> >> Sorry, Windows users, I do not know how to use Itunes under your
>>> >> operating system, so I trust someone will do a fine Windows podcast
>>> >> very soon concerning this very subject. If you want the direct
>>> >> file, it is http://www.shanejackson.net/Talking_iPod_Nano.mp3 and
>>> >> the link for the podcast subscription is
>>> >> http://feeds.feedburner.com/bwbp
>
>
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