How odd Carol. Are you using a parenthesis or bracket? I'm not trying to be pedantic, just wondering curiously why it doesn't work for you. Jackie Cairns Braille Specialist Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3 6WD Tel: 01604 798024 Mob: 07887 883815 www.sightandsound.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol Pearson Sent: 29 October 2009 16:47 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face Yep. That's what I'm saying. -- Carol carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a ---- Original Message ---- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:37 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face > Hi Carol > > Are you saying it isn't working on your phone with the latest Talks > release either, even with punctuation selected to none? > > > Jackie Cairns > Braille Specialist > Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology > Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton > NN3 6WD > Tel: 01604 798024 > Mob: 07887 883815 > www.sightandsound.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol Pearson > Sent: 29 October 2009 13:11 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face > > Well, that's interesting because the previous versions of Talks worked > for me too. > > Perhaps I should escalate this one as it must be that on certain phone > it doesn't work ... > > -- > Carol > carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:58 AM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face > > > Hi Carol > > > > How strange. On all the handsets I work with, I can honestly say I > > always try out the smiley face, and it works a treat. I haven't > > done anything to the dictionary, I just do colon dash and right > > bracket, and it says "smiley face", or "sad face" to colon dash left > > bracket. And I've used Talks for a long time, with most of the > > versions doing this ok. It definitely only works for me though when > > I set punctuation to none which is my preference anyway. > > > > > > Jackie Cairns > > Braille Specialist > > Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and > > Sound Technology Ltd Welton House North Wing > > Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3 6WD > > Tel: 01604 798024 > > Mob: 07887 883815 > > www.sightandsound.co.uk > > -----Original Message----- > > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > > Carol Pearson Sent: 28 October 2009 23:09 > > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face > > > > OK, Jackie, this gets more weird! > > > > I've switched punctuation to "None" and written my > > message and still nothing! Weird! > > > > -- > > Carol > > carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a > > > > ---- Original Message ---- > > From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx> > > To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:57 PM > > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face > > > > > Hi Carol > > > > > > Right, I have tried writing a smiley face with colon > > > dash right bracket using my work N82 which has the > > > very latest edition of Talks > > > > on there. And when I Talks and up arrow, or move the > > > arrow key up then down to read the line again - > > > whichever is your preference - it > > > > says "smiley face", so it does definitely work. I > > > have punctuation set to none. Setting it to some, > > > most or all does not say "smiley face" and, to my > > > knowledge, never has. > > > > > > I hope this clarifies for anyone wanting to try it. > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > J > > > > > > > > > Jackie Cairns > > > cairnsplace@xxxxxxx > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > > > Carol Pearson Sent: 28 October 2009 18:36 > > > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face > > > > > > Hi Eleanor, > > > > > > OK, sorry ... > > > > > > I need to backtrack. > > > > > > I used to use it a lot in Version 3 and it worked, as > > > it were, out of the box! > > > > > > I have used it in Version 4 but just written in the > > > key strokes and not really read the result. When I > > > did, I too found that it didn't read the "smiley > > > face" to me. > > > > > > I am pretty sure that in Version 3 there was a > > > dictionary (in Talks) > > > > that defined these smileys. > > > There no longer seems to be this dictionary by > > > default, so we possibly have to put them into the > > > user dictionary ourselves in order that they will > > > speak again. > > > > > > Can anyone confirm this or work out what the problem > > > is from what I'm saying. > > > > > > Sorry, Eleanor, my head's all over the place this > > > week and I wasn't too coherent when last I wrote > > > because I should have explained that I hadn't really > > > checked it all out in Version 4. > > > > > > Anyway, now perhaps someone will help us both sort > > > it, but I rather thank that we have to enter the :] > > > (Smiley) into the User Dictionary. > > > > > ... > > > > > > Hope someone can help further, please. > > > > > > -- > > > Carol > > > carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a > > > > > > ---- Original Message ---- > > > From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:12 PM > > > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face > > > > > >> It did not work Jackie, that is my problem. Also > > >> Amro had a suggestion about pressing the No 1 key on > > >> the keypad if predictive text is turned on, that > > >> does not work for me either. I think Carol > > > >> was going to try it. > > >> How about it then Carol? ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Jackie Cairns" > > >> <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:23 PM > > >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face > > >> > > >> > > >> Hi Eleanor > > >> > > >> I haven't used the E71, so don't know anything about > > >> it. > > >> But I can't imagine it being much different from any > > >> of those I have used. > > >> Presumably you have punctuation set to none or some, > > >> in which case, > > > >> you should hear Talks say "smiley face". As for > > >> writing one in a message, then hearing it, press up > > >> arrow and then down arrow to read the last few words > > >> you have written, including "smiley face", or Talks > > >> and down arrow to read the entire message you have > > >> written. If > > > > >> doing all this doesn't work, I'm stuffed! (smiley > > >> face). > > >> > > >> Jackie Cairns > > >> Braille Specialist > > >> Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and > > >> Sound Technology > > > >> Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton > > >> Park Northampton NN3 6WD > > >> Tel: 01604 798024 > > >> Mob: 07887 883815 > > >> www.sightandsound.co.uk > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > > >> Eleanor Burke Sent: 28 October 2009 10:08 > > >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face > > >> > > >> Hi nobody has been able to answer my query, I do not > > >> have talks say > > > >> smily face when I write it in a text message on my > > >> e71. Like I said > > > >> I > > > > >> just get some sort of 'click' > > >> sound. Strange that as when someone sends one to me, > > >> it says smily face. > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: Carol Pearson > > >> <mailto:carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: > > >> talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:52 PM > > >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face > > >> > > >> Ah! I must give that a go and not go the long way > > >> round! > > >> That will get me to use them more! > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Carol > > >> carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a > > >> > > >> ---- Original Message ---- > > >> From: Amro Bilal > > >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:50 PM > > >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face > > >> > > >>> That's right, Carol. You can do them with or > > >>> without the dashes. Actually if predictive text is > > >>> turned on, pressing number 1 twice gives you the > > >>> smiley face. If you press number 1 twice then cycle > > >>> through the predictions with the star key the sad > > >>> face is the second > > > > >>> or third item on the list of predictions. > > >>> > > >>> HTH, > > >>> Amro > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>> From: Carol Pearson > > >>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:07 PM > > >>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Jackie's given you them, Eleanor. > > >>> > > >>> I thought the dash wasn't used but maybe you can do > > >>> it either way. > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Carol > > >>> carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>> On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a > > >>> > > >>> ---- Original Message ---- > > >>> From: Eleanor Burke > > >>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:01 PM > > >>> Subject: [talks-uk] Smily Face > > >>> > > >>> > i forget how to write this when I write a text > > >>> > message. I think Carol is one person who can tell > > >>> > me how to do it. How is it that > > > >>> > talks is able to recognize the image and call it > > >>> > a smily face. Actually if there is a down or > > >>> > miserable face too, and any other > > > >>> > facial expression, just a frown or whatever I > > >>> > would like to know > > > >>> > it. I am not looking for a list of moticans, > > >>> > just the ones one might use when sending a text. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, > > >>> version of virus signature database 4547 (20091027) > > >>> __________ > > >>> > > >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > >>> > > >>> http://www.eset.com > > >> > > >> > > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > > >> __ _ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs > > >> Email Security System. 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