[talks-uk] Re: Smily Face

  • From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:55:01 -0000

How odd Carol.  Are you using a parenthesis or bracket?  I'm not trying
to be pedantic, just wondering curiously why it doesn't work for you.


Jackie Cairns
Braille Specialist
Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
Welton House North Wing
Summerhouse Road
Moulton Park
Northampton
NN3 6WD
Tel: 01604 798024
Mob: 07887 883815
www.sightandsound.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol Pearson
Sent: 29 October 2009 16:47
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face

Yep.  That's what I'm saying.

--
Carol
carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Twitter:  http://twitter.com/songbird49a

---- Original Message ----
From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:37 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face

> Hi Carol
> 
> Are you saying it isn't working on your phone with the latest Talks 
> release either, even with punctuation selected to none?
> 
> 
> Jackie Cairns
> Braille Specialist
> Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology 
> Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton
> NN3 6WD
> Tel: 01604 798024
> Mob: 07887 883815
> www.sightandsound.co.uk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol Pearson 
> Sent: 29 October 2009 13:11
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
> 
> Well, that's interesting because the previous versions of Talks worked

> for me too.
> 
> Perhaps I should escalate this one as it must be that on certain phone

> it doesn't work ...
> 
> --
> Carol
> carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> On Twitter:  http://twitter.com/songbird49a
> 
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:58 AM
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
> 
> > Hi Carol
> >
> > How strange.  On all the handsets I work with, I can honestly say I 
> > always try out the smiley face, and it works a treat.  I haven't 
> > done anything to the dictionary, I just do colon dash and right 
> > bracket, and it says "smiley face", or "sad face" to colon dash left

> > bracket. And I've used Talks for a long time, with most of the 
> > versions doing this ok.  It definitely only works for me though when

> > I set punctuation to none which is my preference anyway.
> >
> >
> > Jackie Cairns
> > Braille Specialist
> > Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and
> > Sound Technology Ltd Welton House North Wing
> > Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3 6WD
> > Tel: 01604 798024
> > Mob: 07887 883815
> > www.sightandsound.co.uk
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > Carol Pearson Sent: 28 October 2009 23:09
> > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
> >
> > OK, Jackie, this gets more weird!
> >
> > I've switched punctuation to "None" and written my
> > message and still nothing!  Weird!
> >
> > --
> > Carol
> > carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > On Twitter:  http://twitter.com/songbird49a
> >
> > ---- Original Message ----
> > From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:57 PM
> > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
> >
> > > Hi Carol
> > >
> > > Right, I have tried writing a smiley face with colon
> > > dash right bracket using my work N82 which has the
> > > very latest edition of Talks 
> 
> > > on there.  And when I Talks and up arrow, or move the
> > > arrow key up then down to read the line again -
> > > whichever is your preference - it 
> 
> > > says "smiley face", so it does definitely work.  I
> > > have punctuation set to none.  Setting it to some,
> > > most or all does not say "smiley face" and, to my
> > > knowledge, never has. 
> > >
> > > I hope this clarifies for anyone wanting to try it.
> > >
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > J
> > >
> > >
> > > Jackie Cairns
> > > cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > > Carol Pearson Sent: 28 October 2009 18:36
> > > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
> > >
> > > Hi Eleanor,
> > >
> > > OK, sorry ...
> > >
> > > I need to backtrack.
> > >
> > > I used to use it a lot in Version 3 and it worked, as
> > > it were, out of the box!
> > >
> > > I have used it in Version 4 but just written in the
> > > key strokes and not really read the result.  When I
> > > did, I too found that it didn't read the "smiley
> > > face" to me. 
> > >
> > > I am pretty sure that in Version 3 there was a
> > > dictionary (in Talks) 
> 
> > > that defined these smileys.
> > > There no longer seems to be this dictionary by
> > > default, so we possibly have to put them into the
> > > user dictionary ourselves in order that they will
> > > speak again. 
> > >
> > > Can anyone confirm this or work out what the problem
> > > is from what I'm saying.
> > >
> > > Sorry, Eleanor, my head's all over the place this
> > > week and I wasn't too coherent when last I wrote
> > > because I should have explained that I hadn't really
> > > checked it all out in Version 4. 
> > >
> > > Anyway, now perhaps someone will help us both sort
> > > it, but I rather thank that we have to enter the :]
> > > (Smiley) into the User Dictionary.
> >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Hope someone can help further, please.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carol
> > > carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > On Twitter:  http://twitter.com/songbird49a
> > >
> > > ---- Original Message ----
> > > From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:12 PM
> > > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
> > >
> > >> It did not work Jackie, that is my problem.  Also
> > >> Amro had a suggestion about pressing the No 1 key on
> > >> the keypad if predictive text is turned on, that
> > >> does not work for me either.  I think Carol 
> 
> > >> was going to try it.
> > >> How about it then Carol? ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Jackie Cairns"
> > >> <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:23 PM
> > >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hi Eleanor
> > >>
> > >> I haven't used the E71, so don't know anything about
> > >> it. 
> > >> But I can't imagine it being much different from any
> > >> of those I have used.
> > >> Presumably you have punctuation set to none or some,
> > >> in which case, 
> 
> > >> you should hear Talks say "smiley face".  As for
> > >> writing one in a message, then hearing it, press up
> > >> arrow and then down arrow to read the last few words
> > >> you have written, including "smiley face", or Talks
> > >> and down arrow to read the entire message you have
> > >> written.  If 
> >
> > >> doing all this doesn't work, I'm stuffed! (smiley
> > >> face). 
> > >>
> > >> Jackie Cairns
> > >> Braille Specialist
> > >> Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and
> > >> Sound Technology 
> 
> > >> Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton
> > >> Park Northampton NN3 6WD
> > >> Tel: 01604 798024
> > >> Mob: 07887 883815
> > >> www.sightandsound.co.uk
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > >> Eleanor Burke Sent: 28 October 2009 10:08
> > >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
> > >>
> > >> Hi nobody has been able to answer my query, I do not
> > >> have talks say 
> 
> > >> smily face when I write it in a text message on my
> > >> e71. Like I said 
> 
> > >> I
> >
> > >> just get some sort of 'click'
> > >> sound. Strange that as when someone sends one to me,
> > >> it says smily face.
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: Carol Pearson
> > >> <mailto:carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To:
> > >> talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:52 PM
> > >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
> > >>
> > >> Ah!  I must give that a go and not go the long way
> > >> round! 
> > >> That will get me to use them more!
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Carol
> > >> carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> On Twitter:  http://twitter.com/songbird49a
> > >>
> > >> ---- Original Message ----
> > >> From: Amro Bilal
> > >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:50 PM
> > >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
> > >>
> > >>> That's right, Carol. You can do them with or
> > >>> without the dashes. Actually if predictive text is
> > >>> turned on, pressing number 1 twice gives you the
> > >>> smiley face. If you press number 1 twice then cycle
> > >>> through the predictions with the star key the sad
> > >>> face is the second 
> >
> > >>> or third item on the list of predictions.
> > >>>
> > >>> HTH,
> > >>> Amro
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: Carol Pearson
> > >>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:07 PM
> > >>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Jackie's given you them, Eleanor.
> > >>>
> > >>> I thought the dash wasn't used but maybe you can do
> > >>> it either way. 
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Carol
> > >>> carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>> On Twitter:  http://twitter.com/songbird49a
> > >>>
> > >>> ---- Original Message ----
> > >>> From: Eleanor Burke
> > >>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:01 PM
> > >>> Subject: [talks-uk] Smily Face
> > >>>
> > >>> > i forget how to write this when I write a text
> > >>> > message. I think Carol is one person who can tell
> > >>> > me how to do it. How is it that 
> 
> > >>> > talks is able to recognize the image and call it
> > >>> > a smily face. Actually if there is a down or
> > >>> > miserable face too, and any other 
> 
> > >>> > facial expression, just a frown or whatever I
> > >>> > would like to know 
> 
> > >>> > it.  I am not looking for a list of moticans,
> > >>> > just the ones one might use when sending a text.
> > >>>
> > >>>
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