Hi Amro Interesting, thanks. I've now tried this, and it works with just a colon and a right bracket, so at least it's a bit quicker!! (smiley face). I'd always been told to include the dash, so hadn't given a thought to omitting it. Cool! Jackie Cairns Braille Specialist Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3 6WD Tel: 01604 798024 Mob: 07887 883815 www.sightandsound.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amro Bilal Sent: 29 October 2009 10:37 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face Hold on people! OK. To write a smiley if predictive text is on, you only need to press number 1 twice. This will write a colon sign and a right bracket sign. Yes, without the dash, and that's a smiley face. Most people don't bother with the dash any more. You're not keeping up with the younger generation and internet forums folks LOL! Actually, I hardly come across any smiley faces written with the dash sign these days. Examples- :) :@ ;) :p. Suffice to say, from what I see, in text messages, people mostly just use the happy face sign and to a lesser extent the sad face sign. As of Talks reading smiley faces and sad faces, this how it works on my E66 using Talks 4 and when punctuation is set to none. Talks reads 'colon right bracket' and 'colon dash right bracket' as smiley face when reading line by line or reading all. When reading word by word or character by character, Talks reads the signs as they are. i.e. Talks says colon, right bracket and so on. P.S. When predictive text is on, pressing number 1 three times writes three exclamation marks. Cycle through and you'll get the happy and sad faces written with the dash sign. Hope that makes sense, Amro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:13 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face > Hi Eleanor, > > Correct. The 1 key doesn't work if predictive is switched on. > > All the best > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke > Sent: Wednesday 28 October 2009 17:13 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face > > It did not work Jackie, that is my problem. Also Amro had a suggestion > about pressing the No 1 key on the keypad if predictive text is turned on, > that does not work for me either. I think Carol was going to try it. How > about it then Carol? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:23 PM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face > > > Hi Eleanor > > I haven't used the E71, so don't know anything about it. But I can't > imagine it being much different from any of those I have used. > > Presumably you have punctuation set to none or some, in which case, you > should hear Talks say "smiley face". As for writing one in a message, > then hearing it, press up arrow and then down arrow to read the last few > words you have written, including "smiley face", or Talks and down arrow > to read the entire message you have written. If doing all this doesn't > work, I'm stuffed! (smiley face). > > > Jackie Cairns > Braille Specialist > Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sight and Sound Technology Ltd > Welton House North Wing > Summerhouse Road > Moulton Park > Northampton > NN3 6WD > Tel: 01604 798024 > Mob: 07887 883815 > www.sightandsound.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke > Sent: 28 October 2009 10:08 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face > > Hi nobody has been able to answer my query, I do not have talks say > smily face when I write it in a text message on my e71. Like I said I > just get some sort of 'click' sound. Strange that as when someone sends > one to me, it says smily face. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carol Pearson <mailto:carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:52 PM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face > > Ah! I must give that a go and not go the long way round! That > will get me to use them more! > > -- > Carol > carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: Amro Bilal > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:50 PM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face > >> That's right, Carol. You can do them with or without the >> dashes. Actually if predictive text is turned on, >> pressing number 1 twice gives you the smiley face. If you >> press number 1 twice then cycle through the predictions >> with the star key the sad face is the second or third >> item on the list of predictions. >> >> HTH, >> Amro >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Carol Pearson >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:07 PM >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face >> >> >> Jackie's given you them, Eleanor. >> >> I thought the dash wasn't used but maybe you can do it >> either way. >> >> -- >> Carol >> carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a >> >> ---- Original Message ---- >> From: Eleanor Burke >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:01 PM >> Subject: [talks-uk] Smily Face >> >> > i forget how to write this when I write a text message. >> > I think Carol is one person who can tell me how to do >> > it. How is it that talks is able to recognize the image >> > and call it a smily face. Actually if there is a down >> > or miserable face too, and any other facial expression, >> > just a frown or whatever I would like to know it. 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