Carol I have had to put it in the User dictionary and now it is fine and there when I write it.
Eleanor----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:09 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face
OK, Jackie, this gets more weird!I've switched punctuation to "None" and written my message and still nothing! Weird!-- Carol carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a ---- Original Message ---- From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:57 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily FaceHi Carol Right, I have tried writing a smiley face with colon dash right bracket using my work N82 which has the very latest edition of Talks on there. And when I Talks and up arrow, or move the arrow key up then down to read the line again - whichever is your preference - it says "smiley face", so it does definitely work. I have punctuation set to none. Setting it to some, most or all does not say "smiley face" and, to my knowledge, never has. I hope this clarifies for anyone wanting to try it. Kind regards, J Jackie Cairns cairnsplace@xxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol Pearson Sent: 28 October 2009 18:36 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face Hi Eleanor, OK, sorry ... I need to backtrack. I used to use it a lot in Version 3 and it worked, as it were, out of the box! I have used it in Version 4 but just written in the key strokes and not really read the result. When I did, I too found that it didn't read the "smiley face" to me. I am pretty sure that in Version 3 there was a dictionary (in Talks) that defined these smileys. There no longer seems to be this dictionary by default, so we possibly have to put them into the user dictionary ourselves in order that they will speak again. Can anyone confirm this or work out what the problem is from what I'm saying. Sorry, Eleanor, my head's all over the place this week and I wasn't too coherent when last I wrote because I should have explained that I hadn't really checked it all out in Version 4. Anyway, now perhaps someone will help us both sort it, but I rather thank that we have to enter the :] (Smiley) into the User Dictionary. ... Hope someone can help further, please. -- Carol carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a ---- Original Message ---- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:12 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily FaceIt did not work Jackie, that is my problem. Also Amro had a suggestion about pressing the No 1 key on the keypad if predictive text is turned on, that does not work for me either. I think Carol was going to try it. How about it then Carol? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:23 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face Hi Eleanor I haven't used the E71, so don't know anything about it. But I can't imagine it being much different from any of those I have used. Presumably you have punctuation set to none or some, in which case, you should hear Talks say "smiley face". As for writing one in a message, then hearing it, press up arrow and then down arrow to read the last few words you have written, including "smiley face", or Talks and down arrow to read the entire message you have written. If doing all this doesn't work, I'm stuffed! (smiley face). Jackie Cairns Braille Specialist Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3 6WD Tel: 01604 798024 Mob: 07887 883815 www.sightandsound.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 28 October 2009 10:08 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face Hi nobody has been able to answer my query, I do not have talks say smily face when I write it in a text message on my e71. Like I said I just get some sort of 'click' sound. Strange that as when someone sends one to me, it says smily face. ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Pearson <mailto:carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:52 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face Ah! I must give that a go and not go the long way round! That will get me to use them more! -- Carol carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a ---- Original Message ---- From: Amro Bilal To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:50 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily FaceThat's right, Carol. You can do them with or without the dashes. Actually if predictive text is turned on, pressing number 1 twice gives you the smiley face. If you press number 1 twice then cycle through the predictions with the star key the sad face is the second or third item on the list of predictions. HTH, Amro ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Pearson To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:07 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Smily Face Jackie's given you them, Eleanor. I thought the dash wasn't used but maybe you can do it either way. -- Carol carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a ---- Original Message ---- From: Eleanor Burke To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:01 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Smily Face > i forget how to write this when I write a text > message. I think Carol is one person who can tell me > how to do it. How is it that talks is able to > recognize the image and call it a smily face. > Actually if there is a down or miserable face too, > and any other facial expression, just a frown or > whatever I would like to know it. I am not looking > for a list of moticans, just the ones one might use > when sending a text. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4547 (20091027) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.34/2463 - Release Date: 10/27/09 15:50:00