[tabi] Re: Quick notice
- From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:33:29 -0500
Yes; there's a commonly used analogy for this type of behavior: people often
mention a bucket of crabs; any single crab can usually climb up the side of
the bucket and escape, except that all the other crabs always grab onto him
and pull him back down, so none of them escape. you can pretty much count
on a bucket of crabs not getting lose because of this.
I too see a lot of this behavior amongst blind people: I'm not going to help
"him" in any way, because I was able to do it, and so if he wants it, he's
going to have to do it himself just like I did. it's a very common atitude,
and it makes me pretty sad each time I see someone acting like that.
Chip
-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Charles Atkins
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:13 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Quick notice
We also divide where our abilities are concerned and because some amongst us
can work our maps diagrams and such on the college level when others that
are blind can't, and must need an alternative format to accomplish this
feat,
those who can often will say I did it and so should they without the
diverting.
Yes!
That, too, is why we can't change the money or, make changes on the college
level and so on.
I don't agree, though, that they are conspiring to divide us.
They don't rush because half of us tell them what the heck, go on and use
that money for something else.
We have been getting by all these years and we will go on doing it.
Those who can always with out diversion, I will admit they're smart and I'm
always proud of them, but, they accept it or not,
should bare in mind, we're not all the same in our abilities in coping with
blindness.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Plummer" <joeplummer@xxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 7:38 AM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Quick notice
> You are right! I have seen this over and over in the blind community where
> we are just all going in different directions. No organization at all.
> Everyone is just out for his or her self. We are the only people
> with a disability or handicap that cannot come together for the betterment
> of our selves. I will give a example: Making money accessible. This is
> exactly why it has not been done already. The AFB has one opinion on it
> the
> NFB has another and We have our own. So there is no unity or coming
> together
> and there forth nothing ever gets done and we are staying in the same hole
> with the money not being accessible. Now this being said there is also
> fact
> that most people are not handicap or have a disability so things are done
> for the vast majority which we are not. Just some of my thoughts.
>
>
> Sign,
> JP ( Joe Plummer)
> joeplummer@xxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Daniel ben Moshe
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 6:34 PM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Quick notice
>
> Well, much of this, is because the Blind community is not together itself.
> We in south Florida have the same problems with our City, and county
> Governments regarding the same issues. They see that we are not all
> together, and they play us against one another, I,e, NFB, ACB. What ever
> they can use to play us against each other, they are using.
> And another thing, they know who votes, and who doesn't, so when you call
> down there to the city hall, to bitch. They are looking your name up, and
> if you are not a registered voter, they are not even paying attention to
> you
> as a person. So lets make sure that when we are attending these meetings,
> that we are first of all. Registered to vote, and then lets find a way to
> bring all of us Blind people in the state together, to face this issue.
> It
> sounds to me, as if they are using the same issue all around the state, to
> cause division.
> I think that with large blind communities like in Tallahassee, it's time
> for
> you guys to start using that to force changes, because Tallahassee is
> clearly not going to change concerning the busses, and what they are
> saying,
> is that the economy is bad, and they need to cut routs. You guys need to
> really stand up, because if you don't you will have only one bus going to
> the mall, and that area. They are just pushing, to see what they can get
> away with. And if you guys let them get away with this, what will be next?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Joe Plummer
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:05 PM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Quick notice
>
> Well I am going to say this on list and then this will be all I will say
> on
> the subject of the bus schedule and race and slavery on list. After this
> we
> will have to continue it off list. I not saying the bus program is not
> going
> somewhat backwards and I not saying they shouldn't go into the malls. Yes
> it
> is sad that they are steam rolling over the blind community on the bus
> program. But this has no connection what so ever with slavery or racism at
> all. Now this might have something to do with discrimination. That is a
> total different thing than racism and slavery. Just more of my opinions.
>
>
> Sign,
> JP ( Joe Plummer)
> joeplummer@xxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Lynn Evans
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:04 AM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Quick notice
>
> Hello Joe and others interested in this tread:
>
> It has everything to do with this historical fact. A department of our
> city
> government is telling us to do something that is not safe to do. That is
> walking through the parking lot to get to the mall. Now what would happen
> to
>
> an African American who showed up on any other day of the week than
> Saturday
>
> 50 ears ago? Do you think African Americans would be safe on their
> shopping
>
> trip?
>
> It would be going backwards in time to insist that African Americans do
> their shopping on Saturday afternoons.
>
> If Star Metro is going into the Governor Square Mall now it certainly is a
> step backwards to take the bus service out of the mall.
>
> African Americans have fought long and hard to get the right to shop on
> every day along with the rest of America. We blind along with the rest of
> the disabled community don't want special treatment. Do we? We want that
> same chance like everyone else; as long as it is a safe chance.
>
> Simply said I don't want to go backwards. I was kind of sort of in favor
> of
> giving up bus service through May apartment complex for longer night and
> Sunday service. Now this seems to be off the table and no service to the
> mall unless one walks. We are going backwards here. I am not against
> walking.
>
> Tallahassee is not a walk able community, not yet.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Plummer" <joeplummer@xxxxxxx>
> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 PM
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Quick notice
>
>
>> What does this have to do with his question? He was asking if it would be
>> of
>> a help if they got a foot in the door by starting getting the bus in the
>> mall on the weekend he said Saturday but I would think he would also
>> include
>> Sunday on the list unless the bus doesn't run on Sunday. I don't see what
>> this has to do with race or slavery! Just my thoughts. Yes Saturday would
>> be
>> better than nothing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sign,
>> JP ( Joe Plummer)
>> joeplummer@xxxxxxx
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Lynn Evans
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:44 PM
>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Quick notice
>>
>> In the old days of segregation southern towns would only allow African
>> Americans to do their shopping in town on Saturday afternoons.
>>
>> No but thank you for asking.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: daviska9 <mailto:daviska9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:07 PM
>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Quick notice
>>
>>
>> One other thought y'all. What if StarMetro provided into the mall
>> service on Saturday only? Would that help?
>>
>> Kevin.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>>
>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of daviska9
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 6:37 PM
>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [tabi] Quick notice
>>
>>
>>
>> As some of you know from the paper, the final meeting of the TAC
>> will be this Thursday. Our Chairman has requested that it be a meeting
>> without any further public comment so the TAC may deliberate and vote. I
>> have all of your concerns, and feedback from the last meeting and will
>> try
>> my best to take all of your positions into consideration that night. I
>> will
>> report to the group as to whether the measure passes or not, and by what
>> degree of majority.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kevin Davis
>>
>>
>>
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