[tabi] Re: Quick notice

  • From: "Charles Atkins" <catkins@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:12:30 -0500

We also divide where our abilities are concerned and because some amongst us can work our maps diagrams and such on the college level when others that are blind can't, and must need an alternative format to accomplish this feat,
those who can often will say I did it and so should they without the diverting. 

Yes!
That, too, is why we can't change the money or, make changes on the college level and so on. 

I don't agree, though, that they are conspiring to divide us.
They don't rush because half of us tell them what the heck, go on and use that money for something else. 

We have been getting by all these years and we will go on doing it.
Those who can always with out diversion, I will admit they're smart and I'm always proud of them, but, they accept it or not,
should bare in mind, we're not all the same in our abilities in coping with blindness.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Plummer" <joeplummer@xxxxxxx> 
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 7:38 AM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Quick notice



You are right! I have seen this over and over in the blind community where
we are just all going in different directions. No organization at all.
Everyone is just out for his or her self. We are the only people
with a disability or handicap that cannot come together for the betterment
of our selves. I will give a example: Making money accessible. This is
exactly why it has not been done already. The AFB has one opinion on it the NFB has another and We have our own. So there is no unity or coming together 
and there forth nothing ever gets done and we are staying in the same hole
with the money not being accessible. Now this being said there is also fact 
that most people are not handicap or have a disability so things are done
for the vast majority which we are not. Just some of my thoughts.


Sign,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
joeplummer@xxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Daniel ben Moshe
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 6:34 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Quick notice

Well, much of this, is because the Blind community is not together itself.
We in south Florida have the same problems with our City, and county
Governments regarding the same issues.  They see that we are not all
together, and they play us against one another, I,e, NFB, ACB.  What ever
they can use to play us against each other, they are using.
And another thing, they know who votes, and who doesn't, so when you call
down there to the city hall, to bitch.  They are looking your name up, and
if you are not a registered voter, they are not even paying attention to you 
as a person.  So lets make sure that when we are attending these meetings,
that we are first of all.  Registered to vote, and then lets find a way to
bring all of us Blind people in the state together, to face this issue. It 
sounds to me, as if they are using the same issue all around the state, to
cause division.
I think that with large blind communities like in Tallahassee, it's time for 
you guys to start using that to force changes, because Tallahassee is
clearly not going to change concerning the busses, and what they are saying, 
is that the economy is bad, and they need to cut routs.  You guys need to
really stand up, because if you don't you will have only one bus going to
the mall, and that area.  They are just pushing, to see what they can get
away with. And if you guys let them get away with this, what will be next?


-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Joe Plummer
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:05 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Quick notice
Well I am going to say this on list and then this will be all I will say on the subject of the bus schedule and race and slavery on list. After this we will have to continue it off list. I not saying the bus program is not going somewhat backwards and I not saying they shouldn't go into the malls. Yes it 
is sad that they are steam rolling over the blind community on the bus
program. But this has no connection what so ever with slavery or racism at
all. Now this might have something to do with discrimination. That is a
total different thing than racism and slavery. Just more of my opinions.


Sign,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
joeplummer@xxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Lynn Evans
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:04 AM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Quick notice

Hello Joe and others interested in this tread:
It has everything to do with this historical fact. A department of our city 
government is telling us to do something that is not safe to do. That is
walking through the parking lot to get to the mall. Now what would happen to
an African American who showed up on any other day of the week than Saturday
50 ears ago? Do you think African Americans would be safe on their shopping 

trip?

It would be going backwards in time to insist that African Americans do
their shopping on Saturday afternoons.

If Star Metro is going into the Governor Square Mall now it certainly is a
step backwards to take the bus service out of the mall.

African Americans have fought long and hard to get the right to shop on
every day along with the rest of America. We blind along with the rest of
the disabled community don't want special treatment. Do we?  We want that
same chance like everyone else; as long as it is a safe chance.
Simply said I don't want to go backwards. I was kind of sort of in favor of 
giving up bus service through May apartment complex for longer night and
Sunday service. Now this seems to be off the table and no service to the
mall unless one walks.  We are going backwards here.  I am not against
walking.

Tallahassee is not a walk able community, not yet.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Plummer" <joeplummer@xxxxxxx> 
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Quick notice



What does this have to do with his question? He was asking if it would be
of
a help if they got a foot in the door by starting getting the bus in the
mall on the weekend he said Saturday but I would think he would also
include
Sunday on the list unless the bus doesn't run on Sunday. I don't see what
this has to do with race or slavery! Just my thoughts. Yes Saturday would
be
better than nothing.



Sign,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
joeplummer@xxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Lynn Evans
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:44 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Quick notice

In the old days of segregation southern towns would only allow African
Americans to do their shopping in town on Saturday afternoons.

No but thank you for asking.
----- Original Message ----- From: daviska9 <mailto:daviska9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:07 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Quick notice


One other thought y'all.  What if StarMetro provided into the mall
service on Saturday only?  Would that help?

Kevin.






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From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of daviska9
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 6:37 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Quick notice



As some of you know from the paper, the final meeting of the TAC
will be this Thursday.  Our Chairman has requested that it be a meeting
without any further public comment so the TAC may deliberate and vote.  I
have all of your concerns, and feedback from the last meeting and will try 
my best to take all of your positions into consideration that night.  I
will
report to the group as to whether the measure passes or not, and by what
degree of majority.



Kevin Davis




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