[studiorecorder] Re: New Exciting Beta Version
- From: "David Tanner" <David.Tanner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: studiorecorder@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:47:18 -0500
But, compairing the SoundForge manual and way they work isn't fair.
After all the last time I checked American Printing House for the
Blind was suppose to be developing products for use by the blind and
accessible to the blind.
I don't have a problem with deleting a mark one place and inserting
one somewhere else, but I am not ready to tell a company whose main
mission is or should be making products that are accessible to blind
people that it is alright to ignore keyboard equivelents and go for
the mouse because that is what sighted people use. That attitude is
not acceptible.
Sorry, I don't go for giving in to mouse users that easy when it
comes to software designed by an agency that calls themselves
American Printing House for the Blind.
And now I'll step down off the soap box.
David Tanner
Rehabilitation Program Specialist 3
Assistive Technology Specialist
Assistive Technology Department
MN State Services f/t Blind
Office- 651-642-0795 Cell- 651-270-2233
Skype name: dtat100
>>> neal.ewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 6/21/2006 8:47 AM >>>
And one further point. People who are blind sometimes forget that
there
are other people in the world who see and who use the mouse. I
happen
to know a couple with low vision who use SR. True, they may lose
enough
of their vision at some point to need to use more of the keyboard
commands, and they already use many of them. But, using the mouse
for
them, not to mention people who have normal vision, is a very
normal
thing to do. So, one would definitely point out ways to use SR
with the
mouse. If you really want to read a manual that is mouse crazy,
try the
Sound Forge manual. Yes, they have a lot of short cut keys, but
for the
most part, the manual is written for sighted users. So, in my
opinion,
SR has gone out of its way to make the manual easy to use by all
people.
I think that is a definite plus and not a minus.
Neal
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From: studiorecorder-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:studiorecorder-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ROB
MEREDITH
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 8:10 AM
To: studiorecorder@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [studiorecorder] Re: New Exciting Beta Version
Daveed:
Our manual is what it is, a manual for the product. We don't favor
any
group specifically; we only document the product and its features.
If
anything, we feel like we offer much more accessibility than any
other
wave editor, and it is all documented.
As for moving marks with the keyboard, this is not possible
directly.
The easiest thing to do is simply clear the mark, move to the
place
where you want it, and set a new one. This may sound like we are
skirting the issue, but if you think about, designing an interface
to
move marks with the keyboard would be more complacated than just
clearing the mark and creating one somewhere else. Can you imagine
being
in "mark move mode"? Sounds dreadful!
Rob Meredith
>>> daveedm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 06/20/06 10:47PM >>>
I still wish to plead, Rob, that you provide some explicit and
clearer docs for keyboard-related stuff, as opposed to mouse
girations. For instance, moving marks and selection are discussed
with the mouse, and one must dig to find keyboard equivalents. I
still hyaven 't found the one for moving marks. Am I, what the
British describe as daft or something?
I think you might also address how to make Studio Recorder as
accessible as possible using screen readers. I realize the product
was first and foremost meant for sighted monitors and narrators,
but
since we blind folks have discovered a real hit with this product,
I
feel the docs could be significantly more blind-friendly. Now
remember, I'm a big SR booster, so don't take me wrong here--but
yours docs are very sight-oriented.
Take care.
--Daveed--At 12:30 PM 6/20/2006, you wrote:
>We try! We'll keep trying!
>
> >>> curtis@xxxxxxxxxx 06/20/06 03:26PM >>>
>Holy Toledo! Rob, what an exciting product! I mean it really is
quick,
>innovative, very stable compared to all others, and in all ways,
easy
>to use, speech friendly (accessible with screen readers with
graphics
>only for those who want them), and surprisingly the interface is
>intuitively elligant.
>
>
>
>Curtis Delzer
>
>
>At 11:43 AM 6/20/2006, you wrote:
> >Yet another new feature graces Studio Recorder in this new beta
>release.
> >Well, actually two new features, but one big one. Resampling
Rules!
> >(I'll let you read the What's New file for the other feature.)
> >
> >Rob Meredith
>
>
>
>
>
>
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