[studiorecorder] Re: New Exciting Beta Version

  • From: "David Tanner" <David.Tanner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: studiorecorder@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:39:00 -0500

So, when one does normalize I am wondering if it is better to
normalize a bit below 0.0?  It seems to me that things sound a bit
better if the normalization is done to -1.0 or -2.0.

As I have said before, I seem to be getting pretty good results
with most of the audio that I do, but what I have learned is more
from years of experimenting rather than formal training.  So, you
guys are a great help to guys like us.



David Tanner
Rehabilitation Program Specialist 3
Assistive Technology Specialist
Assistive Technology Department
MN State Services f/t Blind
Office- 651-642-0795  Cell- 651-270-2233
Skype name: dtat100


>>> rmeredith@xxxxxxx 6/21/2006 7:35 AM >>>
Daveed:

You likely don't need to use dither, and SR doesn't support it
anyway.
If you are using a 16-bit sample size, you don't need to worry
about it.
If you are using a 24-bit sample size and you need to go to 16
bits, you
may have to worry about it some day. For a news clip, I wouldn't
think
of worrying about it.

Ideally, you would never normalize. If all recordings were
perfect,
that is, the signal just touching 0dB, you would never have to
normalize, and thus none of the problems with normalizing would
arise.

In trooth, many people, including myself, normalize. Purists will
tell
you that you are introducing noise from rounding, and all of this
is
true. But, it is so minimal, it really isn't a factor. What you
don't
want to do is continually play with the levels. For example, if you
need
to increase a signal by 12 dB, you wouldn't want to use the Change
Volume command 12 times, increasing by 1dB each time. Amateurs tend
to
do things like this, and it drives me crazy. Of course, even if you
do
something like this, you aren't likely to notice a difference.

In digital audio, it is always better to rank level changes the
following way:
1. Do nothing
2. Increase the level
3. Decrease the level

Decreasing is always worse, because it is the easiest way to
introduce
quantization noise. This is opposite the analog world, where we
are
always told that decreasing is better than increasing.

Rob Meredith

>>> daveedm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 06/20/06 10:51PM >>>
I am a reporter, not a big techie!  Dither, shmither!  So when do I

need to dither?  I produce news stories, features and 
documentaries.  I'm a bit stumped on how to apply, or even to
apoply, 
so much of the heavy tech stuff.  Now, I know about EQ, of course,

and dynamic compression.  I try to stay away from normalizing as
much 
as possible.  I find it sqeezes the sound and creates a certain 
sameness--I don't know all the technical terms here.  When is it 
advisable to use normalizing?  My main engineer discourages its
use.

--Daveed--
At 01:19 PM 6/20/2006, you wrote:

>Neal:
>
>No dithering yet. It's all rounding. So, you better normalize
those
>recordings with the quiet mics, or you'll be back to where you
started
>after converting.
>
>Rob Meredith
>
> >>> neal.ewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 06/20/06 04:09PM >>>
>Rob, thanks again for some nice, new and useful features.
>
>One question.  Are you using any dither or noise shaping to
convert
>from
>24 bit to 16 bit?  I also very much like the peak meter read out.
>Nice
>work.
>
>Neal
>
>
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>Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 1:43 PM
>To: studiorecorder@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>Subject: [studiorecorder] New Exciting Beta Version
>
>
>Yet another new feature graces Studio Recorder in this new beta
>release.
>Well, actually two new features, but one big one. Resampling
Rules!
>(I'll let you read the What's New file for the other feature.)
>
>Rob Meredith
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