[SI-LIST] Re: X2Y equivalent circuit model
- From: "Grasso, Charles" <Charles.Grasso@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Grasso, Charles" <Charles.Grasso@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Lee Ritchey <leeritchey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "cristian.gozzi@xxxxxxxxx" <cristian.gozzi@xxxxxxxxx>, 'Ray Anderson' <ray.anderson@xxxxxxxxxx>, "si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:46:45 +0000
Hello Lee - I downloaded the paper " Comparison of X2Y
vs. 0402 Capacitors for Decoupling"
That answers my questions. Thanks!
Best Regards
Charles Grasso
Compliance Engineer
Echostar Communications
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Thank you - and (assuming that you used the *same* mounting method for the
0402) the <insert metric here> was no worse and or no better?
If you did *not* use the X2Y test pattern would you please describe the
mounting method you used on 0402 [ - so that I can copy it!]?
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Charles Grasso
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We mounted the X2Y capacitors exactly as specified in the applications notes
provided by the vendor.
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Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: X2Y equivalent circuit model
Hello Lee - What method is used for a capacitor to be properly mounted?
So, if an X2Y capacitor is properly mounted the <insert metric here> will not
improve?
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Charles Grasso
Compliance Engineer
Echostar Communications
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Our tests show that the X2Y capacitor is no better than a properly mounted
0402 capacitor.
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Thanks
it worked ;-)
Regards
Cristian
Il giorno gio 3 mar 2016 alle ore 10:04 Ray Anderson < ray.anderson@xxxxxxxxxx>
ha scritto:
Cristian-
Johanson Dielectrics has downloadable spice models available from this
web
page:
http://www.johansondielectrics.com/x2y-filter-decoupling-capacitors
download link:
http://www.johansondielectrics.com/downloads/JDI_X2Y_H-Spice_Files.zip
They should be usable in ADS using the ADS 'Hspice Compatibility
Component' Wizard. (in fact I just confirmed that they import OK).
-Ray Anderson
Xilinx Inc.
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Subject: [SI-LIST] X2Y equivalent circuit model
Hi Si expert
I was looking for a good circuit model for X2Y capacitor to be used in
my ADS circuit simulation
on internet I found this
http://www.x2y.com/bypass/X2Y%20Equivalent%20Circuit%20for%20Models.pd
f
but when I tried to implemented it, something was wrong The impedance
vs freq. shapes on log/log scale does not seem correct
can someone give to me any feedback or good reference to look for?
thanks in advance
Regards
Cristian
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