Couldn't agree more with Scott. We had a product designed round a app note that insisted on 15mil width traces and a 5mil plane separation for clocks. Well you can just imagine the SI issues!! Can you say "step on the leading edge"? Chas On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 00:44:29 -0500, Scott McMorrow <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I'd second what Steve says. In my experience, just because an > application note says it's so, don't make it so. The problem with the > simulations (and app notes) of others are those pesky little unstated > assumptions. Sometimes they are unstated yet still considered in the > analysis. Sometimes they are unstated and were not considered. And > other times they are unstated and what was considered is just plain > wrong. Few if any application notes and design guides explicitly state > all the assumptions used. In fact, many of the assumptions are > considered proprietary by semiconductor companies. (When was the last > time you performed an analysis on a processor bus and included the > tester guard band for the processor and the controllerin your timing > analysis?) > > The bottom line: If you want explicit control over all assumptions in > your system (and therefore want to take responsibility for engineering > of that system) then you will roll your own simulations and perform your > own analysis .... or suffer the consequence. Unless, of course, you can > get a semiconductor to certify that their application notes or design > guidelines are error free. > > Y'all might want to take some time and read the legal disclaimers. They > are there for a reason. > > regards and happy simulating, > > scott > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu