That is a great answer. I agree completely. To me that is just poor sportsmanship to not follow through because you think you may be beaten. Your whole life is a myriad of competition. Either play the game all the way - or don't play at all - JMHO. Lee F. -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Beryl Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 6:57 PM To: dir@xxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: staying for group I know that some people do not like to stay when they feel that the winner of the group may be a foregone conclusion. My feelings are that it is my obligation to stay. I don't write the check, make the entry, hire a handler etc., then not compete. I also think that many people like to see a complete group, rather than wonder why the GSD was not there. While I realize that we may sometimes feel that we cannot be competitive with certain high profile, highly advertised animals. I think we owe it to the breed to be there and do the best we can. We may not get the approval of the group judge, but you can bet on getting some recognition by those who stayed or perhaps others who came late in the day with the hopes of seeing a GSD . I would think one would want every opportunity to show the people who stayed for group.....this is a German Shepherd Dog. Beryl Eshom Arelee GSD Davis, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert dir" <dir@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 6:32 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] staying for group > Just wondering how you all feel about staying for the group when you > already know top Group winners will be in that class. Are you just proud > to have a BB animal to go into the group or are you feeling like it is not > worth staying for? I have no opinion--just wondering how you all feel . > Sandi ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================