Did you line breed, Theresa, or did faded color and poor structure just happen ? was this aplan ? Carolyn ________________________________ From: Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx> To: d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx; "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:51 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: question about showing But who said to throw out Alex and Troll I was just commenting on all the linebreeding that was done on these Houston and Gotti . Go back and count all the times that Alex is in both dogs pedigree. I thought both Alex and Troll were wonderful GSD's it is not their fault how breeders overused them. Still will not understand why a few people can not see this reasoning. Theresa -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 9/12/13, David Fritsche <d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] question about showing To: scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx, nhansburgh@xxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thursday, September 12, 2013, 1:27 AM Well, I wonder what would have happened if we had thrown out Axel and Troll? What would our breed be like? And given the lack of genetic knowledge we had back then, who would we have bred to and what problems would we have discovered through them? I am not good at taking chances with my breeding's, that is probably why I am so famous for my lines (not)! So I cannot defend chance taking and my own conservative actions at the same time, but... Without Axel and Troll, what would we have and what would our breed be? It certainly would be entirely different. Dave ------------------------------------------- What should be of concern is all the crosses back to Axel von der Deininghauser Heide known to have digestive problems coming up through Troll and Bad Melle that both Houston and Gotti had. Theresa ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ÿÿ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================