Well, I wonder what would have happened if we had thrown out Axel and Troll? What would our breed be like? And given the lack of genetic knowledge we had back then, who would we have bred to and what problems would we have discovered through them? I am not good at taking chances with my breeding's, that is probably why I am so famous for my lines (not)! So I cannot defend chance taking and my own conservative actions at the same time, but... Without Axel and Troll, what would we have and what would our breed be? It certainly would be entirely different. Dave ------------------------------------------- What should be of concern is all the crosses back to Axel von der Deininghauser Heide known to have digestive problems coming up through Troll and Bad Melle that both Houston and Gotti had. Theresa On Wed, 9/11/13, nhansburgh@xxxxxxxxxx <nhansburgh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: question about showing Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 10:10 PM i believe that houston died young of bloat and gotti only made it to eight. those things bother me more then the hips and elbows do ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================