[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: question about showing

  • From: carolyn mckenna <carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx>, "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT)

Then what are you attempting to do with your attacks on the foundations of our 
breed?
We all want health and temperament; however, in addition, we want our dogs as 
closely
as possible to conform to the standard.  It would be ludicrous to believe one 
could wait 
until a dog is ten years old to decide to breed to him.  I remember seeing 
Houston walking
 into the hotel the night before his first national.  It was not necessary to 
see him in the ring
in order to recognize greatness. The line breedings I made on Troll and Axel 
through
Bonnie Bergere and Field Marshal produced no health or temperament problems
nor have the several line breedings in recent years on Boss.  The aim must 
always be for
quality of the total dog and conformation to the standard.
Carolyn



________________________________
 From: Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx>
To: carolyn mckenna <carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx>; "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" 
<showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: question about showing
 

Already explained this bought GSD's for my boys that were never planned to be 
bred.  Listened to 
my vet to wait to spay the female went to work with husband deciding no harm to 
let them together. 

As far as poor structure they were of working lines not show lines. The working 
Police lines the sire came was
were bred to work so didn't care about the show ring as doubt very few would be 
Police Officiers. 
As I wanted protection chose the working lines not American Show lines even 
though
the sires pedigree went back to them on the dam side but she only lived to be 7 
1/2.  The
sire lived to be a old dog with no problems I know of.

The white GSD dam of the sable female also went back to working lines so bought 
her for that
as my boys were not interested in showing dogs either.  Remember I showed 
horses back
in 1990's not dogs.  Yes, they were closely linebreed but not planned and I 
paid the price as
I lost 4 to the disease Hemangiosarcoma to what the sire died of at 11 and one 
to DM of what the dam
was lost to in the dams lines.  So see I know first hand what linebreeding too 
close results in.

Has anyone ever counted some of the GSD's as I read someone did and got a 
thousand
crosses back to the same dog.

Theresa


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On Thu, 9/12/13, carolyn mckenna <carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: question about showing
To: "scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx" <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx>, 
"d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx" <d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx>, "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" 
<showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, September 12, 2013, 10:40 AM

Did you line breed,
Theresa, or did faded color and poor structure just happen
?was
this  aplan ?Carolyn
         From: Theresa-GSD
Stolz-Scenecrest Farm
  <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx>
  To:
  "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
<showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
  Sent:
Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:51 AM
  Subject: [
SHOWGSD-L ] Re: question about showing
    
But who said to throw out Alex and Troll I was just
commenting
on all the linebreeding that was done on these  Houston
and Gotti .
Go back and count all the times that Alex is in both dogs
pedigree.
I thought both Alex and Troll were wonderful GSD's it is
not
their fault how breeders overused them.  Still will not
understand
why a few people can not see this reasoning.

Theresa
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