[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Standard- New Discussion
- From: Terry Cochran <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, "candiasgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <candiasgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx, cudjoegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:10:27 -0700 (PDT)
The truth is until we know for sure that a dead tail is an absolute symptom of
a health issue, we can't fault it any more that a detraction from perfection.
Terry
<hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
So if I am getting this right..you would rather put up a dog that could be
inferior in every other way..over a dog that is superior in every way, but
exhibits this one issue that you happen to personally not like. I have
posted that I think the dead tail thing is a problem..but I am not certain
that I could toss aside an exceptional dog because of a "pet peeve" Mind
you..we are talking about judging here..not breeding. If it were
breeding..I wouldn't breed to the dog..nor would I keep a dog/bitch in my
kennel for breeding with this problem. C.Grainger
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> Date: 7/11/2006 12:57:43 PM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Standard- New Discussion
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> Yes, the standard does say the tail is accentuated and raised and a dead
tail
> can't do that. I don't know why that particular tail is dead but either
way I
> can't forgive it. I don't want to be a fault judge, but I know my pet
peaves!
>
> Candy
>
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 7/11/2006 1:27:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > candiasgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> >
> > Boy, you are going to make me think. I personally feel it's a problem
> and
> > should be faulted, however since it's not covered in our standard as a
> fault
> > then the judge that doesn't fault it, in essence would be correct. If
it's
> > not
> > impairing the movement of the animal then it's not a gait fault.
There's no
> > mention in the standard either, where they discuss the tail. I worry
about
> > this being an indication of DM or other physical problems that can
cripple
> > our
> > breed, so again this is something I will notice and take into serious
> > consideration.
> >
> > Candy
> >
> >
> >
> > "Tail bushy, with the last vertebra extended at least to the hock
joint. It
> > is set smoothly into the croup and low rather than high. At rest, the
tail
> > hangs in a slight curve like a saber. A slight hook- sometimes carried
to
> one
> > side-is faulty only to the extent that it mars general appearance. When
> the
> > dog is excited or in motion, the curve is accentuated and the tail
raised,
> but
> > it should never be curled forward beyond a vertical line. Tails too
short, or
> > with clumpy ends due to ankylosis, are serious faults. A dog with a
docked
> > tail must be disqualified."
> >
> > OK, Candy and D.D. you got me thinking too. I say go ahead and
> penalize it
> > Candy, and I think you can hang your hat on the section "When the dog
is
> > excited or in motion, the curve is accentuated and the tail raised".
A dog
> in
> > motion whose tail is slapping off its hocks doesn't have a tail that
is
> > "raised".
> >
> > Now, how serious or not serious...that's where the argument comes in.
> And I
> > suppose a judge who penalizes this could be considered a "fault
judge".
> > It's rare that you would have equal specimens though, but if that DID
> occur,
> > although the penalty is not defined in the standard, knowing the
horrible
> > downside of perpetuating neurological issues and the alarming number of
> dead tails
> > we're seeing....well if you were conservative and faulted it heavily,
I
> > wouldn't protest .
> >
> > Kathy
> > three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here!
> >
> > visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_
> > (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/)
> >
>
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