I guess my position is this..yes we do evaluate dogs been shown as potential breeding stock..some that are put up I would not breed to..some I may put up..I would not breed to and some who may not have stellar show records..I could easily breed to. I have always had a problem with the confusion of breeding to a show record..and breeding to a dog who may not have the show record..but can produce. Just because I put a dog up as a judge..does not mean he is recommended for all bitches..nor does it evaluate his future or present producing ability.Producing ability is an anomaly that can't be evaluated in the ring. Many great dogs can't produce...many good dogs end up being better producers..who knows why..that is what keeps breeding dogs interesting! The Friday before Bull went GV..he was still the same dog as he was on Sunday after he went GV. His winning that title didn't make him a producer. The evaluation of breeding stock is multi faceted..you look at the dog..you look at his breeding..you look at whether he could compliment your bitch..if he has progeny on the ground..were the bitches bred to him better than the dog? If so why do you want to breed down? I am probably making more of this evaluation thing than I should!LOL..Christine > [Original Message] > From: <Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx> > To: <inflight2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <candiasgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>; <cudjoegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 7/11/2006 4:15:08 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Standard- New Discussion > > > In a message dated 7/11/2006 2:01:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > inflight2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > Hi Christine, > But AKC showing in and of itself is to showcase breeding stock, is it not? > > Kathy >>>>>>>>>>>> > > Inflight writes: > > BINGO!!! Give this gal the Brass ring! > > Now -- Everyone who had a problem with the "mediocre" thread, maybe you > understand why some of us get upset when mediocrity wins. > > > Thank you Kathaleen, I appreciate that. I was beginning to feel like odd > man (or woman) out , lolol. If we no longer judge the dogs as BREEDING STOCK > , and only judge them on their merits as show dogs, then we may as well be > showing neutered animals, or animals with major faults since their breeding > worthiness will not be in question. Heaven help us then. In some instances, > it seems we have already forgotten the true purpose of showing our dogs.... > > Kathy > > > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================