[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Standard- New Discussion
- From: "D.D. and Bonnie Ardoin" <cudjoegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Terry Cochran" <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <candiasgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 14:47:19 -0500
But Terry, what if the "bad" tail is not impairing gait? D.D.
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From: Terry Cochran
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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Standard- New Discussion
Maybe it is time that we have the dead tail added to the standard as a
serious fault.I would put it under gait.
Isn't the tail to help with balance?
Terry
"D.D. and Bonnie Ardoin" <cudjoegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Candy = I agree with you about the "tail" problem but the discussion I
wanted to start was about the Standard not mentioning the functions of the
tail in motion. So you severely fault the tail you describe while the next
judge does not fault the same tail on the same dog the next day. Who is
right? The Standard does not describe it as a fault. Should it be faulted
under the section in the Standard called GAIT? It states "Faults in gait,
whether viewed from front, rear or side, are to be considered very serious
faults. The problem with that is I have seen many dogs with the above
mentioned "faulty" tail, gait without apparent interference from the tail`s
bouncing off the hocks. Is it cosmetically displeasing of functionally
displeasing? Should a person severely fault a dog for reasons other than
what is called for in the Standard? Inquiring minds want to know? D.D.
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Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Standard- New Discussion
> D.D.,
>
> "Dead" tails as you describe have really started bothering me the last few
> years. I mostly show in the all breeds but do get to a few specialties
every
> year. More and more I'm noticing tails that just hang and bounce off the
> hocks as well as dragging toes and locked hocks. I do feel that I'm
seeing
> more of a neurological problem than a fixed tail. This really scares me.
Of
> course I'm no vet and don't now for a fact, but this is my opinion. I'm
> currently trying to fulfill my requirements for my judges license and I
can tell
> you this will be something that I watch for and will be very critical of.
It's
> been a pet peave of mine for quite awhile. And so far, the dogs that I
have
> personally seen with this problem go back to the same bloodlines.
>
> CandyZ
>
> From BFE Wyoming!
>
> > Listers- I think it is time to start a new discussion of the Standard
and
> > also time to stop the emerging nastiness on the List!
> > The first discussion was on Teeth and bites and how the standard was
> written
> > and a discussion between undesirable and faults. Now lets read and
> discuss
> > the section on TAIL. Why pick such an unconventional topic when we are
a
> > gaiting breed? I picked TAIL because of what this section did not say.
> > Nowhere does it state the function of the tail in motion, only how it
should
> > look at rest. It does not describe the tail placement/action when the
dog
> > is in motion. As a judge, I severely fault (there is that ugly word
again)
> > a tail that bounces off the hock and falls to the ground when not
bouncing
> > off the hocks. I don`t think the tail we see today like I described is
the
> > result of surgical correction. I think it is probably a neuromuscular
> > problem in the spine. One of the reasons I say this it that most of
these
> > affected animals can swing their tails from side to side when excited.
The
> > problem is when they are gaiting.
> > This action is not mentioned in the Standard, so my question is, should
> > this be severely faulted even though it is not mentioned in the
Standard?
> > A follow up question is should this be added to the Standard? I await
your
> > suggestions and comments. Be nice!! D.D.
> >
> >
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