I agree , syd.. I have had a couple of swimmers - they were the ones I had nicknamed "Jabba the Hut".. the big fat, lazy puppy that squirms his way to the nipple and never leaves.. I can't see how that could be hereditary Sue Madlung - Shadowacre Reg'd German Shepherds NEW LITTER DUE JUNE 29/07!!! http://www.shadowacre.com/litters.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Elsyd1@xxxxxxx To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 4:30 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: SWIMMERS AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN In a message dated 5/31/2007 3:40:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx writes: Be quick to correct the swimmer as young as possible so that he/she can live as normal a life as possible. But remember the swimmer syndrome is more often than not hereditary do not use it for breeding. The puppy lives a good life the breed avoids another pitfall. Everyone wins. ----------------------------------------------- I disagree. I have never found swimmer syndrome to be hereditary, thru over 7 generations of my dogs, with a rare swimmer, maybe 4 in 30 years. Inherited from where? If the parents did not exhibit it, and the grandparents didn't, and on and on, how can it be hereditary? I have bred a swimmer, and subsequent progeny, no swimmers from those animals. My ROM Andretti bitch Safari had a swimmer in her first litter. She never had another, and in two other Andretti sister breedings to the same male, no swimmers. I believe it comes from puppies that like to sleep on their tummies, much as babies who sleep on their backs can develop a flat head, unless turned. Simple cause and effect, in my opinion. Shalom, Syd SYD MAILBERG _WWW.KINGSWOODGERMANSHEPHERDS.HOMESTEAD.COM_ (http://www.kingswoodgermanshepherds.homestead.com/) "A dog is a dog except when he is facing you. Then he is Mr. Dog." - Haitian Farmer ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.4/825 - Release Date: 5/30/2007 3:03 PM ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================