Wow, what a temper...I am definitely reading what you are writing..It seems no one else has seen this phenomenon, so we are merely citing our own experience. As far as the womb, a puppy might be positioned in a manner that causes a flat chest, anything is possible. I think it is possible that you have an hereditary tendency in your own lines that causes this, regardless of the position the fetus takes. I myself have never seen it repeated in subsequent litters. Syd In a message dated 6/1/2007 12:07:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, EKO LAN1 writes: ARE YOU NOT READING WHAT I AM WRITING? I AM TALKING ABOUT THE ONES THAT ARE BORN FLAT CHESTED. DID THEY LAY ON A FLAT PART OF THEIR MOTHERS WOMB? I FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE. I AM SURE THAT YOU CAN CAUSE THE SWIMMER SYNDROME THESE ARE NOT THE ONES I AM SPEAKING OF. I HAVE CHECKED AT BIRTH AND THEY WERE FLAT. UNLESS YOU THINK I AM LYING WAIT THAT'S IT YOU THINK I AM FIBBING FRED SYD MAILBERG _WWW.KINGSWOODGERMANSHEPHERDS.HOMESTEAD.COM_ (http://www.kingswoodgermanshepherds.homestead.com/) "A dog is a dog except when he is facing you. Then he is Mr. Dog." - Haitian Farmer ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================