[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Movement

  • From: Vicki Roye <vicki.roye@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Pam Stoesser <pkstoesser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 12:29:11 -0500

Bravo, Pam!!!!!

Vicki Roye
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 16, 2012, at 11:39 AM, "Pam Stoesser" <pkstoesser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Just some random thoughts about this topic on a dreary Friday.
> 
> "Terrible movement" can only be seen if you know what good movement is 
> supposed to be.  And it seems to me that you can only know what "good" and 
> "terrible" are by being a student of the Standard.  I have shown National 
> videos to friends with only a passing interest in dogs and had them generally 
> be able to pick out the ones that 'cover the most amount of ground with the 
> least amount of effort' if they are shown at a moderate speed. Breakneck 
> speed makes it a whole lot harder!
> 
> The Standard says that the gait is "outreaching, elastic, seemingly without 
> effort, smooth and rhythmic, covering the maximum amount of ground with the 
> minimum number of steps' and "feet travel close to the ground".  Watch a GSD 
> on an agility course or herding.  Correct structure and bad structure are 
> both pretty evident there. I really admire those who are competitive in both 
> performance and conformation.  For many folks however, it's an issue of both 
> time and money.  Nonetheless, shouldn't we want our dogs to conform to the 
> Standard as much as possible, no matter the venue?
> 
> Reading the 'discussion' here where people with performance dogs have said 
> that their dogs shouldn't have to meet the basic requirements of the Standard 
> (the part about disqualifying faults) - somehow seems to imply that the 
> German Shepherds shown "just" in performance are somehow second-class GSDs, 
> which I devoutly hope NO ONE believes.  I've seen some beautifully correct 
> dogs in the performance rings, some with and some without Ch in front of 
> their names.  The purpose of the breed ring is to demonstrate the physical 
> conformance to the Standard with some basic indication of mental soundness.  
> I think the performance venues demonstrate more strongly the mental 
> conformance to the Standard.
> 
> Somewhere the buying public has gotten the idea that they also should have 
> something less than a conformed puppy. . . "oh, I don't want a show dog;  I 
> just want a pet." . . . or "oh, I don't need a show dog;  I just want to do 
> obedience."  It's the same Standard.  It's the same breed.  It's the dog that 
> truly can "do it all" and it smart enough to do anything we ask of it.
> 
> It seems to me that everything we do with this breed depends on the Standard. 
>  I talked to someone the other day that had bred 2 litters without ever 
> reading the breed Standard.  I was stunned by that.
> 
> Don't we all want to see correct ("good" by definition) movement from this 
> breed?  Don't we want to see correct temperament and character from this 
> breed?  But we have to know what those are.
> 
> For me, it is painful to look at a GSD puppy that is so far from conforming 
> to the Standard that it looks like some other breed.  It is even more painful 
> to see the lack of character that has 3-month old puppies lunging at the end 
> of a leash barking at everything that moves and trying to bite and kill 
> anything that comes in range of their jaws or trying to crawl up the owner's 
> back because it's so frightened.
> 
> There are no perfect GSDs.  But I think we have to keep trying to conform to 
> the Standard.
> 
> Back to work. . .
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Vicki Roye
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:58 AM
> To: ELG440@xxxxxxx
> Cc: showgsd-l digest users
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Movement
> 
> With all due respect, there are a lot of breed champions who can show us what 
> terrible movement is all about.
> 
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