I have been going to a lot of all breeds and there is not enough good movement there for a judge to even see good sidegait, in most cases. There are a FEW judges that put up the movers and many more that only look at the end of the lead. Ann --- Penny & Bill <Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I've been going to a lot of all-breed shows; it's > my humble opinion > that many of them understand AND appreciate good > sidegait. I think > the specialty judges would do as Tom says--but I > also believe that > about 75% of the all-rounders would put up the > better mover, too! > Penny in NY > On Jul 14, 2008, at 5:09 PM, Tom Elkins wrote: > > > Okay, so here's a hypothetical. You're deciding > between two dogs for > > the > > points.One is less than 100% either going away or > coming in, or > > maybe even > > both. Not gruesome, but not 100%.However, his type > is beautiful and > > he's a > > drop dead gorgeous sidegaiter. The second dog is > clean as a pin > > coming and > > going,but "just a dog" in terms of type and > motion.Not bad, but > > clearly not > > as good as the first dog in type or sidegait. > Which one do you put > > up ? No > > fence riding. My take is that most all-breed > judges would put up the > > second > > dog, most specialty judges the first. > > > > tom elkins > > Firethorn Temple > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the > property of the original author and of GSD > Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of > any kind are permitted without prior permission of > the original author AND of the Showgsd-l > Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, > REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL > WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST > MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A > VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL > BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management > at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ > Ann Home of Sel Ex # 6 Ch Maxwell, Sel Ex Ch Gilley and #1 Dam Muggles - owner/breeder of 66 champions and 19 ROMs ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================