I'm replying to my own post... how wacky is that?? ;-) In the time since I posted my 2 cents... I've thought of a better way to say what I said! ;-) I was responding to: "....In ...the real world, dogs are specialized within the breed. Every herding aficionado wants shepherds from herding lines, and top echelon agility and obedience people also seek out those breeders that excel in those venues. We have got to stop making Gods out of these dogs. They are dogs. They cannot do it all. " The *New & Improved* short & sweet response: The biggest obstacle a GSD should have to 'doing it all' should be the owner. :-D Now to ruin the short & sweet part by babbling: Our dogs can be trained to do anything! I've heard of people using GSDs as gun dogs... retrieving birds. That's definately outside of the norm, but for a naturally agile & smart breed like ours it shouldn't be shocking that it has been done. The drawback should be the owner's desire. Not the dog's physical or mental makeup. I don't want to have an obedience GSD, a show GSD and a herding GSD in 3 different GSDs who look totally different! Blech! As I said before, I'm not big into obedience, but qualifying scores should not require 'sleeping with the judge' ;-) Diane (off to feed the sheep... finally) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================