In a message dated 12/2/04 8:53:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, PAGAIRS writes: > Evan you have NOT answered my question...you made a statement about "breed > problems"...I asked a question "what do you consider breed problems"...please > quit changing the subject (which your good for, guess its a lawyer thing) > and answer the question. Sorry, I didn't know you were serious. Most people who ask me a serious question, do so in private. But, I have no problem answering you. In my opinion, (which is the only one that counts) a breed problem is anything that interferes with the health, future or safety of the animal. I also consider a breed problem anything that creates a fault in the breed, but that is only as to the venue of showing that you are trying to enter. In other words, if you want to show in agility, a breed problem would be a dog less agile than required, If you want to show in conformation it would be anything that does not meet the standard, if you want to show in Schutzhund, it might be a weak bite, so it is a dynamic answer. If you want just a basic idea for me of a breed problem in generic terms, I will stick with my first answer. We in the breed have set a target, based on a person or person's ideal. We who chose to compete in that arena, have to find a way to meet the goals set up, (the standard) or decide we have other priorities. And there is nothing wrong with that. If we are going to breed for conformation we have to do so to meet the conformation standard. Since I, and many others have decided to dedicate ourselves to reaching the goals set up by the standard, any deviation from the standard must by definition, be a breed problem. Does that make it true, or authentic problem? Only for that venue, or that person. Other than meeting the goals of the standard, the only breed problem that truly exists in the overall scheme of things has to be anything that endangers the future of the breed. You asked for a serious answer to a very good question. I hope that works for you. Evan Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================