"....In ...the real world, dogs are specialized within the breed. Every herding aficionado wants shepherds from herding lines, and top echelon agility and obedience people also seek out those breeders that excel in those venues. We have got to stop making Gods out of these dogs. They are dogs. They cannot do it all. " =================================================================== I don't know who originally said this - just saw it quoted on another post. But, if someone has any doubt that given the proper environment and the correct structure, our dogs can do it all - visit a bit with Julie Degan and have a conversation with her. I am sure that Julie will be pleased to talk to you about her old Ch. Tori and her brand new Ch. Cassie. My understanding is that both came from conformation lines. Dania ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================