[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Dallas and sons
- From: Lindenhill German Shepherds <lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 03:49:50 +0000 (UTC)
I guess we can continue on, and push these issues or discussions back into the
shadows and not allow them to see the light of day, I for one feel it is just
this type of levity that is needed to help us move forward as a breed.
Certainly we can learn from the SV in this regard, If we can not get our
problems out in the open under the scrutiny of our own community - we will fail
to others who will, and we will be relegated to those very same shadows where
we belong.
I stand by my earlier comments Dallas was breed to some fantastic bitches...
the results speak for themselves(both good and bad). Who will the next great
dog be, I guess we wait for the passing of the torch and apply the formula
again, and again
Let me know when you all are willing to have an HONEST and OPEN discussion and
let it all hang out.
Rumor has it a hit was put out on me, for speaking my mind and putting pen to
paper where many wouldn't dare to go but secretly agree.
Gotta go build a bomb shelter,
cya.
M
----- Original Message -----
From: lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: "showgsd-l" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 9:27:38 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Dallas and sons
have pondered on whether or not to jump in for a few days; and then I thought
about how I would feel if it were my dog being discussed via such a public
forum. With a lot of people who read but never post, you wonder who is reading
the comments. They read the threads and believe it as truth. (FYI: I have no
ties to Dallas or his sons; but I have seen many stud dogs and owners torn up
unfairly over many years.)
I don't think anyone can deny that Dallas did a lot for our breed. This is
evident through his sons/grandsons who are producing many of today's winners.
IMO Dallas gave us beautiful type, bone, soundness, and consistent type. Like
many ROM dogs, it took the owners promotion to get ROM's and Red Book /Top
Producing status. At the end of the day; no matter who promoted- the progeny
won based on their own merit. Kudos to those that can accomplish. It takes
dedication and hard work to promote an animal, ask anyone who owns an ROM. Do
we have to beat up the those that worked aso hard to get these titles?
I go to the shows and hear "so and so produces xyz fault" and it is many times
unfair. Any dog who is heavily used will throw every single fault you can think
of. The greater the number of progeny, the more prone to a problem cropping up.
Bitch owners forget that the dam was responsible genetically for 50% of the
problems. Just as an example, I popular ROM GV stud dog from years back (not
Dallas lines) has been labeled as a "producer of bloat." When I asked the
commenter for specifics, she said "abc dog" out of this sire died of bloat. Ok,
but how many progeny in general lived long healthy lives? The people that own
these popular stud dogs will tell you what they feel are "issues". They don't
want people breeding to their dogs that are not a good fit.
I think all of us are concerned that our gene pool is getting slim. Because
these Dallas and his sons produced so well, many breeders wisely used them.
Now, we have created a bubble where the winning dogs go back to the same
bloodlines. All dogs genetically carry good and bad; the question should be
where to take the progeny from these lines to open up the gene pool and
compliment the good. No bloodline can be successful by continually breeding
back into it. As fewer people come into our sport, we have less
animals/bloodlines to breed to. Where can we take these animals and continue to
improve, add some other genetics?
It just seems very unfair to single out bloodlines via this forum. It is
hurtful to many who love their dogs. Ask any owner of a GV how the dog they
loved was torn apart.
Respect goes a long way when you are talking about the dog who sleeps at your
fellow dog owners bedside. Imagine if this was YOUR DOG people were talking
about on the list. I am sorry, IMO it is just wrong.
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